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PanozGTR
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:34 pm    Post subject: 997 Daily driver Reply with quote

I plan to use my new to me 997 as a daily driver for the next 3 or 4 months before l get a run around. Can l have your thoughts/experiences of the car used as normal transport ie. Weekly shopping,transporting the three piece suite etc.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used mine as a daily for a while. Doing the shopping isn't a problem as I often go to Costco in it. They can ingest quite a fair old amount of stuff. People have made comments as I've pulled up with a full trolley along commenting on how where I was going to put it all, only to eat their words as I close the bonnet.
The other thing of note is that it lost a little of its magic being used every single day.
After it returned to being an occasional use vehicle, all its charm returned.
My 2 cents
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nigel99
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used my 997 daily for first 10 months of ownership and knocked up 7k miles. Had no issues going to gym, work or shops. In fact every journey in the car is special.

The only reason I got a second car was because I got fed up with the little dings and scrapes that appear after visits to car parks. frustrated
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had my gen1 997 for 4 years and used it as my daily doing 50k over the 4 years and selling the car with 89k on the clock. very very few issues no more than if I was running any german marque.
Personally I did not lose any of the magic and really enjoyed driving a 911 every day.
I now have a 997 gen 2 which was not going to be my daily and was going to be used 50/50 with the range rover but I enjoy it so much I have driven 2k in the eight weeks I have had it and cant see me stopping only when the winter comes and the weather gets a bit frozen etc . Grin Thumb
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rossman999
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Phil, I used mine for 4 years and 40K miles with a roof rack it can carry bikes, ski's and even the occasional ladder.
With a set of winter tyres I used it all year round even in 6 inches of snow without any problems.

The only limiting factor is the rear seats anyone over 5 foot 3 will struggle and will not be comfortable for any distance.
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James M-S
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on your circumstances, as the only car in the household as a couple, no probs.

Only car in the household with kids and dog etc, probably not.

I use mine as a daily. I am lucky to have a nice twisty B road commute.

I drop off my 7 & 9 year old kids at school etc.

It's supremely comfortable for long drives, I've done 4-5 hour drives with ease, no aches etc.

Now I know the car I am confident that the engine out back won't try to kill me on every bend in torrential rain.

In fact I love it even more than when I first got it two years ago.

The only downside is being paranoid about scratches in busy car parks.... and the wife finds suspension too hard.

Having said that, Using it with three occupants makes it much easier than if we were all in it. (Wife has the family wagon).

I am lucky that We also have a snotter that I use when salt is on the roads.

They are also reportedly better than BMWs in snow as there is weight over the rear wheels.

Oh, and although it is easy to park as it's reasonably small, the doors are long and seat is low, so it can be tricky to get in/out of the car in a small parking bay.

Hope that helps,
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:52 am    Post subject: daily driver and high miles Reply with quote

On this subject are there any higher mileage 997s on here? A lot of the examples are second/third cars, and have consequently low mileages.

I'm used to high mileage cars and it doesn't faze me, my 964 had about 160k on the clock and my current others cars all have 120k plus.

Apart from the usual is there anything specific to watch out for? What sort of mileages are 997s capable of?
 
  
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Les
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I drive all over the country for work and use my 997.2 every day. It now has 103K on the clock. Still, drives like new.

We use it for the shopping, B&Q runs etc. it's the family car during the week, and the fun toy at the weekend.... wasn't that what the 911 was designed for?
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2008 Porsche 997 Carrera 2

PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: daily driver and high miles Reply with quote

eatapeach wrote:
What sort of mileages are 997s capable of?


I read on an American forum that one of the senior engineers from Stuttgart reckoned that the gen2 with PDK was designed to be good for 'at least half a million miles' but, he said, it should last a lot longer.

I think I'll put that to the test.

I've seen some M96/97 engines in 300K+ cars as well.

Keep the revs below 3K until the oil is warm, and change the oil every 5K, and they should go on, and on, and on, and on.....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use my Turbo daily. thumbsup Just about to do the school run, two children and a wheelchair fit in it fine, just no room for the wife! Floor
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using mine pretty much every day at the moment due to building works going on across the road, better than having an inch of brick dust to get rid of every day! The car is more than practical for daily duties and these cars are better used than sat in a garage anyway.

I find the cabin extremely comfortable, just back from a week in France and covered about 1800 miles including the trip back in one stint, 670 miles 10 hours driving, I was amazed how comfortable the seats are!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I've used my 911's as my daily drivers for 13 years now. No issues with shopping, weekends away, gym, work, etc etc. In fact we just had a weekend away with our 2.5yr old and everything went in no problem. He had tonnes of leg room and fell straight asleep in his car seat and the Mrs was very comfortable and she is 5'10. I'm 6'5'' so there is NO leg room behind me.

911 = Perfect daily driver - you get to enjoy it everyday to!!! Thumb

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i use my 997.2 c4s daily - do around 200 miles a week in it

i run my quite tall kids around in it - 8 & 10

go to supermarket etc.

even run stuff for work around in it - got a 600mm wide x 1600mm long towel rail in it last week!

we've been to stay at friends houses a good 100 miles away in it for the weekend too

great car
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My daughters are 16 & 14, and are happy in the back... it's that or the bus lol.
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James M-S
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 6'4" and my 130cm 7 yr Old fits behind me if needed for short journeys. My seat is slightly forward so not perfect. (If we're 4 up)
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PanozGTR
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback. The 911 really is an all rounder. The minus of hanging the engine outback is far outweighed by all the pluses. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use my 997 turbo as my daily. Done 16,000 miles in it over the last 14 months. Did 500 miles in one day the other week driving to Newcastle & back. That was about 8 hours driving!

Miles are up to 86,000 now as a result and if I keep it another year it will be rolling over the 100k mark. Which does worry me a little bit with regards to how that will affect the value of the car, but we shall see if/when I sell it.

As a daily its great fun. Even when im stuck in traffic etc, I only have to look in the wing mirror and see the massive air intake and it puts a smile on my face. Ive only seen 2 other 997 turbos on the road since I got mine and so it stands out and is quite special amongst all the boring mondeo`s & bmw`s etc other people use as their dailies.

I use it for shopping - can fit quite a bit in the boot, and ferry my 2 lads to football etc without any problem. Even took them and their suitcases & all their gear over to the inlaws a few weeks back for a sleep over in it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PanozGTR wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. The 911 really is an all rounder. The minus of hanging the engine outback is far outweighed by all the pluses. Thumb


Almost.... I use mine as a daily except in winter when I can't open the doors due to the windows freezing shut and not dropping when I try to open the door. Apart from that it does everything brilliantly
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 997.1 C2S, been out of the garage since spring. Mini Cooper S for winter has had 2 flat batteries recently due to being parked up!

Porsche is on 102K miles, averaged 18.8 MPG since April.

Love it. Pick my son up from Nursery, weekend family car (taking precedent over my wife's Merc' GLC)

Get out and Drive! Happy days
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine has never exactly been a daily driver though for about 8 years the GT3 of the time was my only car (commuted by train back then) and it is certainly viable for day to day use.

The noteworthy points to make are pretty much what you would expect. You certainly have "coupe syndrome" in car parks, i.e. in less generous parking bays the long door can make it a tight squeeze to get in and out of (and due to the angle on the glass this is more pronounced with the 911 than something like a 2 door 3 series). Also - you can park a 911 in the middle of an open area in a mostly empty car park and come back to find that the only other car within 100' has chosen to park next to you. It is truly baffling when this happens, but it does. Also be aware when parking that really high kerbs can actually be too high for both the doors or the nose when in a cooking car you wouldn't even think about that. Things like ramp angles will be fine as long as it isn't lowered or wearing an aero kit.

Unless you are a small person in the front with small people or children in the back then the area behind the front seats ought to be considered as for luggage rather than people but then you will already know that. However even a 964 has enough combined storage to do a weeks shop for a family of 4 (mum used to do that back in the day) so there aren't really any other practicality concerns IMHO.

The last point is important though - tyres that are good on a 911 in summer tend to be fairly poor when it gets properly cold. Give very serious thought to hitting eBay to pick up a set of winter wheels. The best time to do this and get a keen price is generally speaking this time of year now Thumb

Oh - and if you are going to pick up an 8' Christmas tree with it then you need roof bars, a Targa or a convertible. Having a passenger hold an upright tree through a Targa roof for a drive home is something that will get you a fair amount of funny looks though. Paper Bag
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