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Allan E
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:07 pm    Post subject: Tiptronic S gearbox Reply with quote

Can anyone confirm whether not the Tiptronic S gearbox was fitted to Japanese cars only. I am not aware, what if any difference, there is between the S box and a standard 4 speed Tiptronic. Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the S meant it had steering wheel controls?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My car is ME spec and a Tiptronic S which has buttons on the steering wheel.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding was that the early cars had Tiptronic - gear stick only but later cars had Tiptronic S - buttons on steering wheel.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack Frost wrote:
My understanding was that the early cars had Tiptronic - gear stick only but later cars had Tiptronic S - buttons on steering wheel.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack Frost wrote:
My understanding was that the early cars had Tiptronic - gear stick only but later cars had Tiptronic S - buttons on steering wheel.


Not sure this is correct as my very early car built in November 93 is a Tiptronic S and has steering wheel buttons.
The Certificate of Authenticity also says Tiptronic S
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 96 993 has finger tip controls.

Paul Stevens is showing a 94 993 for sale without finger tip controls. Is one without valued a little less?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Four-Speed Triptronic S ( automatic ) transmisdion types


Transmission type -A50-04
Model year(s) -1994 to 1998
Model application - Carrera Coupè, Carrera Cabriolet, Targra
Markets - RoW except Japan

Transmission type -A50-05
Model year(s) -1994 to 1998
Model application -Carrera Coupè, Carrera Cabriolet, Targra
Markets - USA & Taiwan
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, very informative, just the facts I was looking for.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So can you have a Carrera S Tiptronic S. (a wide body auto).
 
  
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wozy
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mashby wrote:
Jack Frost wrote:
My understanding was that the early cars had Tiptronic - gear stick only but later cars had Tiptronic S - buttons on steering wheel.


Not sure this is correct as my very early car built in November 93 is a Tiptronic S and has steering wheel buttons.
The Certificate of Authenticity also says Tiptronic S


Hmmmmmm. 1995 Model year was the introduction of the Tiptronic S gearbox, i.e. with the steering wheel buttons. So I'd be seriously checking again, it's either a ***** up or you have a very special 993 Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wozy wrote:
Hmmmmmm. 1995 Model year was the introduction of the Tiptronic S gearbox, i.e. with the steering wheel buttons. So I'd be seriously checking again, it's either a ***** up or you have a very special 993 Thumb


Not sure what you mean by seriously checking again. Last I looked it still had steering wheel buttons Floor

Here's a photo of the certificate of authenticity which gives build date of 10 Nov 93 and also shows Tiptronic S gearbox as optional equipment.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mashby wrote:
wozy wrote:
Hmmmmmm. 1995 Model year was the introduction of the Tiptronic S gearbox, i.e. with the steering wheel buttons. So I'd be seriously checking again, it's either a ***** up or you have a very special 993 Thumb


Not sure what you mean by seriously checking again. Last I looked it still had steering wheel buttons Floor

Here's a photo of the certificate of authenticity which gives build date of 10 Nov 93 and also shows Tiptronic S gearbox as optional equipment.


According to all sources I've come across, the Tiptronic S was not available until to model year 1995 (August/September 1994 build onwards). Google it, ask Porsche and/or check the following:

From the great late Paul Frere book on the 911........ Seventh addition Page 147

Or

Adrian Streathers book based solely on the 993 model (page 222).

Like I've already stated, you must have a very special early 993 if no one has heard of one before. It's worth zillions Smile Thumb

EDIT> SORRY, NO IDEA WHY THE PHOTOS ON A DESKTOP ARE SIDEWAYS. THEY ARE CORRECT ON MY PHONE> frustrated
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats better Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mashby wrote:


Here's a photo of the certificate of authenticity which gives build date of 10 Nov 93 and also shows Tiptronic S gearbox as optional equipment.


Why would anybody get a certificate of authenticity for a 993? I've never seen one before and always thought they were for much older cars where the history could have been lost in the mists of time.

If I was buying a 993 and the vendor produced a Porsche CoA to validate it was what it purported to be it would just make me suspicious as to why it even needed one.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A993LAD wrote:
mashby wrote:


Here's a photo of the certificate of authenticity which gives build date of 10 Nov 93 and also shows Tiptronic S gearbox as optional equipment.


Why would anybody get a certificate of authenticity for a 993? I've never seen one before and always thought they were for much older cars where the history could have been lost in the mists of time.

If I was buying a 993 and the vendor produced a Porsche CoA to validate it was what it purported to be it would just make me suspicious as to why it even needed one.


Well some 993 are 24 years old, and there are no doubt some very dodgy ones out there, and with values as high as they are, I think it would not be a bad idea, as a bit of extra 'proof' that a car was what it was supposed to be? I haven't got a CofA for mine... but then I'm not selling it just yet, but I see why one might have one... This one is puzzling though isn't it, as it definitely suggests there was 'tipronic s' in '93.
 
  
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AndyS
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A993LAD wrote:
Why would anybody get a certificate of authenticity for a 993? I've never seen one before and always thought they were for much older cars where the history could have been lost in the mists of time


I got one just because it was free through PCGB. Not sure I would have bothered otherwise...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A long-standing member of PCGB (who was one of the register secretaries I think) once told me that the COAs quite often have innacuracies within them and are not to be relied upon when buying a car.

I've never quite seen the point of them after that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madge wrote:
A long-standing member of PCGB (who was one of the register secretaries I think) once told me that the COAs quite often have innacuracies within them and are not to be relied upon when buying a car.

I've never quite seen the point of them after that.


I've heard this too. Thankfully mine seems correct, and I only asked for it as it was FOC.

However even if the certificate is wrong ....... how the heck has a guy got a tip S if such a thing didn't exist in 1993?

The mind boggles ...... Very Happy
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mashby
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it looks like the CoA is incorrect then. I only got it because it was free too.
It also looks like I've got the wrong steering wheel but I'm not going to loose any sleep over it. Dont know
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