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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The only advise you can gain is by doing a comparison of what GT's are fetching now compared to their original price.


Here you go....

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if the figures are correct and the ability to dry store + service are kept up with an OPC I'd say they're a good investment if it's possible to buy whilst the going is good. You won't find those sort of profits leaving the money in the bank for a year or 2.

Porsche Centre certainly a hot name right now to be dealing in Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MNC911 wrote:
Well if the figures are correct and the ability to dry store + service are kept up with an OPC I'd say they're a good investment if it's possible to buy whilst the going is good. You won't find those sort of profits leaving the money in the bank for a year or 2.

Porsche Centre certainly a hot name right now to be dealing in Thumb


Couple of significant "if's" there Very Happy
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senoj wrote:
MNC911 wrote:
Well if the figures are correct and the ability to dry store + service are kept up with an OPC I'd say they're a good investment if it's possible to buy whilst the going is good. You won't find those sort of profits leaving the money in the bank for a year or 2.

Porsche Centre certainly a hot name right now to be dealing in Thumb


Couple of significant "if's" there Very Happy


Thumb too very true! That's why I leave the wheeler dealer to Mike Brewer Grin
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everytime i see threads about gt3 values it makes me kick myself for not buying one when i first got hetr. 7.1 GT3RS Black/Orange with 16k on the clock at 67k Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZP wrote:
Everytime i see threads about gt3 values it makes me kick myself for not buying one when i first got hetr. 7.1 GT3RS Black/Orange with 16k on the clock at 67k Sad


Pinch Ouch!!! £67k those days will come around again. All in good time. Porsche is strong against the £Pound & has been for the past couple of years. Most of their products have done well for price increases for second hand market.

Which is good for owners Grin
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MNC911 wrote:
FZP wrote:
Everytime i see threads about gt3 values it makes me kick myself for not buying one when i first got hetr. 7.1 GT3RS Black/Orange with 16k on the clock at 67k Sad


Pinch Ouch!!! £67k those days will come around again. All in good time. Porsche is strong against the £Pound & has been for the past couple of years. Most of their products have done well for price increases for second hand market.

Which is good for owners Grin


Let's not go there. I remember doing some (failed) man maths on a 997.2 RS for 85k, but couldn't justify it then. It was a few years ago now obviously, but pretty sure it was aqua blue with Weiss gold wheels like the one currently at JZM for £180k wack

The trick with GT3's is to spend now, ask questions later Grin
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the usual caveats apply to the statement "buy now, ask questions later"

1. Establish it is not crash damaged - ignore HPI - may not have been reported to insurer and may have been fixed (cheap?) as an out-of-pocket repair.

2. Steer clear of high mileage cars for best prospect of rising values.

I'm not a GT3 owner but am reliably informed on the above two points - with probably a bias towards avoiding an example in the first caveat.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheshire911 wrote:
Do the usual caveats apply to the statement "buy now, ask questions later"

1. Establish it is not crash damaged - ignore HPI - may not have been reported to insurer and may have been fixed (cheap?) as an out-of-pocket repair.

2. Steer clear of high mileage cars for best prospect of rising values.

I'm not a GT3 owner but am reliably informed on the above two points - with probably a bias towards avoiding an example in the first caveat.


Re Point 1 - are you aware of any such cars that potential buyers should be aware of?
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an "Avoidance" thread on Pistonheads but I should imagine that as these are track cars there are quite a few off the radar. Personally if they have been professionally repaired then I dont see an issue.

A red 996 GT3 has a thread of its own on here: http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=118405

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pip I think that you make a valid point given these are (relatively) small volume specialist cars and they get used on track means there is always going to be higher risk of crash repairs than other models.

If its repaired properly through an insurer to how Porsche intended then it probably has no impact on values (with the supporting paperwork). I think its when they are a category X write off put back on the road or a private repair without going through the insurer with no visibility on HPI that one has to take care and have any prospective purchase of a GT3 or any high-end car thoroughly checked out as it will be impacted on value and desirability come resale time.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great thread and read.

Ive been hankering over a 991 GT3 for a while, I had my name down for the gen 2 car but at the time never realised or was told I'd have no chance (never owned a Porsche before).
I've been watching a few cars that are up for sale and prices do vary quite a bit. The voodoo blue car on auto trader looks a well spec car but more miles than I would have liked. Top 555 have a car I would have, black cs but a bit over what I'd like to pay at 145k!
It's just whether I empty my bank and take on a loan to buy one just now and a loan over 5 years is only costing 1800 which isn't a lot!
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have taken my eye off the market for a little while. Are 996 GT3's selling at moment, or is it just the occasional low mileage 'investor' type cars still?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stroller wrote:
Have taken my eye off the market for a little while. Are 996 GT3's selling at moment, or is it just the occasional low mileage 'investor' type cars still?


911virgin have sold 1x Mk1 CS, 2x Mk2's and 1x GT2 in the last week or so. None of those low mileage. So they seem to be shifting
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have taken my eye off the market for a little while. Are 996 GT3's selling at moment, or is it just the occasional low mileage 'investor' type cars still?


Prices have plateaued and softened. The right cars, sensibly priced, are now selling.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slippydiff wrote:
Stroller wrote:
Have taken my eye off the market for a little while. Are 996 GT3's selling at moment, or is it just the occasional low mileage 'investor' type cars still?


Prices have plateaued and softened. The right cars, sensibly priced, are now selling.


If the same question was raised for 997 GT3, would it be a similar answer? Any difference between .1 and .2?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MJA911 wrote:
Slippydiff wrote:
Stroller wrote:
Have taken my eye off the market for a little while. Are 996 GT3's selling at moment, or is it just the occasional low mileage 'investor' type cars still?


Prices have plateaued and softened. The right cars, sensibly priced, are now selling.


If the same question was raised for 997 GT3, would it be a similar answer? Any difference between .1 and .2?


Gen 2 seems up a small tick (possibly seasonal), gen 1 flat but no signs of materially weakening. Plateau seems an appropriate term for the time being but there is nothing that I can see to indicate that they may ever come down. As Slippy said for the 996 - if sensibly priced they find buyers.

The 996 market is interesting though as little used low mileage collector cars certainly seem to be tangibly on the up whereas cars that have been worked are appreciably flatter. The bargains ran out almost 3 years ago as far as I can tell though.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info guys!
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know what the 997.1 and 997.2 GT3's bottomed out at and when?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jotaking wrote:
Does anyone know what the 997.1 and 997.2 GT3's bottomed out at and when?


I bought a main dealer one owner 997.2 GT3 Clubsport with 10k miles on the clock for £74900 in the back end of 2011 and I haven't heard of anyone getting one for materially less (though you have to assume that the trade have probably bought below that). IIRC it was possible to get high milage 997.1 comforts for prices in the low 50s in the same time frame (and it is fair to assume that sub £50k would have happened). The context to remember with the 997.1 to 997.2 gap is that there haven't really been any starship milage gen 2s on the market where as there certainly were with earlier cars.

996.2 GT3s made it down to the mid to high 30s and at least one lucky buyer secured a high mileage but well looked after left hook unbent 996.1 for less than £30k. Note though that left hook GT3s have always had weaker values in the UK than RHD (which surprisingly is not always the case with Pork).
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