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TBE997
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stupid question, do you also get extended locking wheel nuts to go with the spacers?
 
  
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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBE997 wrote:
stupid question, do you also get extended locking wheel nuts to go with the spacers?


No they dont come with one but yes they are available

here's an example mcgard do 6 different lengths plus a tuner bolt type.

http://www.lohen.co.uk/shop/gen-1-mini/chassis/wheel-bolts-gen-1/mcgard-locking-wheels-bolts-gen-1-detail
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

15mm hubcentric all round with no issues on my C2S. I think 15mm front is perfect and could probably go 20mm at rear.....
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nige - it sure is pretty !! Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Due to me using C2S offset vertini magic alloys on my C4S what I need to do is slightly different to norm, so I will be fitting 3mm shims front and 9mm hubcentric rear
This is purely for aesthetics to improve the stance Thumb

Again thanks to Basildon and mimi-me for pointing me in the direction of what I had been told wasn't made, even the guys that supply my tuner bolts told me they were not made in 5x130 fitment when I asked for longer ones to fit 9mm spacers and were gobsmacked when they looked at the porsche shop website.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My spacer project just died, declined by my insurance.... I am with admiral and now considering to switch
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CarreraMonkey wrote:
Nige - it sure is pretty !! Cool


Thanks, but not as shiny as yours! It's also lowered 20mm on H&R springs which along with the spacers really improve the stance.

BTW, I came over to meet you at Simply but you were midway though a demo to about 15 people at the time and I didn't want to ruin your flow!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBE997 wrote:
My spacer project just died, declined by my insurance.... I am with admiral and now considering to switch


I have a few mods, including spacers and it didn't make much of a difference to my policy with admiral. They were certainly happy to continue my policy. I'm now with Elephant and have even more mods and they are part of the same group so I'm surprised you have an issue. I made a point of telling them all of the mods on a call, keeping it a bit wooly and making clear they are all cosmetic and performance related.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BTW, I came over to meet you at Simply but you were midway though a demo to about 15 people at the time and I didn't want to ruin your flow!


Ah, you should have done. It wasn't an official demo - it was Kev and I messing around with some products on Phils new car.

It is kind of funny as we weren't planning for it to go that way. It just turned out that a dozen people were interested in watching 2 old farts put some wax on a car! Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fitted 7mm shims to mine a few weeks ago, have had no issues centreing them, I use alignment bolts (these http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/wheel-accessories/e-tech-engineering-quick-align-wheel-tool and there's about 4mm of the hub poking through the shim too.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My spacer project just died, declined by my insurance.... I am with admiral and now considering to switch


Declined due to spacers Dont know soft gits wack wack find a proper ins company , what you have just been told basically is " we at Admiral will find any way we can in the future to wiggle out of honouring our obligation as your insurer " Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget that if ordering longer bolts you need the radius collared bolts, not the standard tapered bolts. Porsche wheels have radius seat faces.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually in the middle of switching insurance, thanks to AIB Insurance (i think they are a forum sponsor, been very helpful!), so that project is back alive hehe


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TBE997 wrote:
My spacer project just died, declined by my insurance.... I am with admiral and now considering to switch


I have a few mods, including spacers and it didn't make much of a difference to my policy with admiral. They were certainly happy to continue my policy. I'm now with Elephant and have even more mods and they are part of the same group so I'm surprised you have an issue. I made a point of telling them all of the mods on a call, keeping it a bit wooly and making clear they are all cosmetic and performance related.


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TBE997 wrote:
My spacer project just died, declined by my insurance.... I am with admiral and now considering to switch


Declined due to spacers Dont know soft gits wack wack find a proper ins company , what you have just been told basically is " we at Admiral will find any way we can in the future to wiggle out of honouring our obligation as your insurer " Very Happy
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprised I wasn't expecting that!

Before




After




Tyre sticks out beyond the arch with a 15mm spacer. Not sure if it's the tyre profile or if the sports chassis widens the track?

Either way 15mm is too much..
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the next size down Matt, 13mm ?

Will 13mm be too much also ?

I'm keen on this mod myself.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Superforma do 12mm. Not sure if -3mm would be enough though.

Maybe better going for 10mm? Question

Edit. I'm thinking 10mms are the way to go..

Didnt get round to trying the 7s up front. Would imagine they'll be ok, but will check at some point.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found 15mm too much on the rear too, mine is a C2 with PS2s, might be better with a different tyre.

I tested what I wanted by using a load of 2.5mm M14 flat washers, basically using this process https://www.carid.com/articles/the-trick-way-to-determine-what-size-wheel-spacer-you-need.html.

I found 7.5mm on the front best so got some 7mm shims and longer bolts, when they arrived used the shims and two washers to find that 12mm was perfect for the back (needed the longer bolts to do the test, originals too short).

I don't think you can get 10mm, I tried originally. The issue is there isn't enough material to make a hubcentric spacer, and they don't work as a shim because the hub flange doesn't poke through the shim enough to fit the wheel centrally.

So ordered 12mm ones from Design911, but they don't fit, there isn't enough depth in the spacer recess for the hub flanges to fit into. Taken ages to get Design911 to pay attention to me and understand the problem. Sending them back and trying the ones made by TPI. It's all been a bit of a mission.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why couldn't I just use 10mm ones like these?

http://www.superforma.co.uk/wheel-spacers/slip-on-spacers/5x130-slip-on-wheel-spacer-pair-cb-71-6-m14x1-5-bolt.html

They do 12mm ones too..
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CM, what tyres do you have? I'm running 15mm spacers all round with Bridgestones and they don't appear to protrude as much as yours, albeit mine is C2S. I wonder if its just more noticeable due to the contrast in colours between the red bodywork and black tyres Question
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nigel99 wrote:
CM, what tyres do you have? I'm running 15mm spacers all round with Bridgestones and they don't appear to protrude as much as yours, albeit mine is C2S. I wonder if its just more noticeable due to the contrast in colours between the red bodywork and black tyres Question


Nige - They're 305 / 30 bridgestones.

The colour may have something to do with it, but they definitely protrude. I think 10's will be fine though and move them out just enough and go with some conservative 5mm's up front.
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