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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:44 pm    Post subject: just purchased a 2016 turbo 991 paddle steering wheel, Reply with quote

what Airbag do I need and will it fit OK on a tip 997

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2016 PORSCHE 911 991 TURBO BLACK LEATHER PDK STEERING WHEEL WITH PADDLES
 



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does that fit a 997 Gen 1
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In addition to it fitting I'd be interested to know if the multi-function (knob?) and heating element (assuming this wheel has it) on the steering wheel works Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gosh i must be living in the dark ages, heated steering wheel....never knew that. It does look rather nice though

Each day is a lesson of enlightenment !

Goodluck with getting it fitted robbiej
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:50 am    Post subject: FINGERS CROSSED Reply with quote

I fitted a gen 2 wheel to a gen 1 car but to get the multi function to work you needed to replace the module in the steering column to a gen 2 type.
Also use a gen 2 air bag and get the MF turned on with piwis.

At least you would have to do all that with 991 parts I would think.

Keep us posted how you get on as if I buy a 997 turbo tip I would do the same , I hate gen 1 triangle wheels.

Good luck go for it Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a fancy multifunction wheel, so no worries about electronics, but would it be possible to retro fit a newer style (997.2 or 991) wheel to my 997.1?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom_nieto wrote:
I don't have a fancy multifunction wheel, so no worries about electronics, but would it be possible to retro fit a newer style (997.2 or 991) wheel to my 997.1?


A 997.2 wheel will fit a .1 car. You'll also need an airbag as they're different.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really only after paddles as the other car I drive has them. I don't expect to get the little control stick working and was wondering if it can be taken off blanked over.

the interior is grey on my car do I leave it black or get it recovered by royal to match. Would I get the Airbag cover in the right colour.

Ok for £425 and £400 for a second hand airbag then?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be inclined to get a socket set, remove the center, and then remove the unwanted settings dial stork. As for blanking the slot, I'd ask a leather company for a sample piece to match the wheel and make my own blank that's paper thin smaller. Which will allow the leather to trap it tightly in position. Doesn't matter what you use to make a blank, so long as it's strong, who's to know even if it's a bit of wood, all that'll be seen is a taught smooth leather section.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes I'm thinking the same, blank it off
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like someone has created a conversion loom which enables full functionality of the 991 wheel on a 997 Very Happy

Just spotted someone had posted a video on the 997 enthusiast group on Facebook, and they're selling the looms.

Have asked for pricing.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robbie,
That steering wheel will fit a gen 1 and you will need the 997.2/991 airbag for it
the steated wheel will only work if you have heated seats in your car if you have then there is no reason it wont work .
You will need the newer steering control module they are about £230 and you will need to get your opc to turn on the multifunction option through piwis even thought you dont have MF if still needs to be turned on to make the horn work. you must insist at the opc they do this as they think they know better, and they dont. also from the pic it looks like you might be missing the springs that make the airbag/ horn return when you press it they are only a few quid at the opc you cant use the gen1 ones they are too short.
good luck sorting it and funny I always tell people the steering wheel change mod is about £1000 and by the time you have the new module that will be where your at . dont forget to make sure the wiring loom is in the grove for it as you slide the airbag in also apply a small amount of silicon grease around the edge of the airbag this will help stop it from sticking. Thumb Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so I got a Airbag coming cost £350 and £50 for some new cables

how do I find the module I need? I can't seen to find a online Porsche catalog so I can look for bits. I think the shroud can be changed so I can delete the joystick. I've only ever been to independent...

Is this the part http://www.ebay.com/itm/PORSCHE-OEM-15-16-Macan-Steering-Wheel-Control-Module-95B959256C-/112380123493

the shroud is in the ebay picture as well....


the wheel came out of a Porsche cup car I'm told!
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steering control unit you need is this part number 997.613.289.01, there are a few that look the same but it must be this part number nothing else. cost £250ish unless you are lucky and find a used one from a gen2 getting broken.
let me know if you need any other info
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so the wheel has a module 95B959256C in it its not that, thanks for info above!
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robbiej wrote:
so the wheel has a module 95B959256C in it its not that, thanks for info above!


This one sits in the column near the stalks mate Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so it looks like somebody has done a module to get all the control buttons working. not that I have any except for the joystick thing

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1158830434228531&set=pcb.1158831154228459&type=3&theater
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom_nieto wrote:
I don't have a fancy multifunction wheel, so no worries about electronics, but would it be possible to retro fit a newer style (997.2 or 991) wheel to my 997.1?


yes, but you would have to install the 997.2 steering wheel module (997.613.289.01) first to get the airbag + paddles to work properly.

to get the multifunction controller to work you will need a PIWIS to turn the steering module MULTIFUNCTION -> ON , and then have to purchase the lim-bus adapter that will translate the diff protocols between the 997.2 steering module and the 991.2 steering wheel controller.

there is a Paul Li on the Facebook group "porsche 997 retrofit custom & modified tips n tricks" who devised and is selling this solution. i wish he came up with it sooner since I've already sunk too much time and money on a 997.2 steering wheel upgrade!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so the steering wheel works without the module fitted!

I have no buttons on it except the paddle shift

do dealers take parts back? or i'm 260 quid down!
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
Robbie,
That steering wheel will fit a gen 1 and you will need the 997.2/991 airbag for it
the steated wheel will only work if you have heated seats in your car if you have then there is no reason it wont work .
You will need the newer steering control module they are about £230 and you will need to get your opc to turn on the multifunction option through piwis even thought you dont have MF if still needs to be turned on to make the horn work. you must insist at the opc they do this as they think they know better, and they dont. also from the pic it looks like you might be missing the springs that make the airbag/ horn return when you press it they are only a few quid at the opc you cant use the gen1 ones they are too short.
good luck sorting it and funny I always tell people the steering wheel change mod is about £1000 and by the time you have the new module that will be where your at . dont forget to make sure the wiring loom is in the grove for it as you slide the airbag in also apply a small amount of silicon grease around the edge of the airbag this will help stop it from sticking. Thumb Thumb
phill did mine for under £500 best mod I've done 👍
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