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Dammit
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Day one done, this is how we arrived:



And this is how the car sits at the end of day one (it won't be staying this low):

 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The geometry that we found was interesting - both rear wheels were pointing to the right, and the drivers side front wheel was also pointing to the right.

Pete said that it was as if someone had set out to design a specially for oversteering whilst turning left.

Here's why the rear wheels were doing this:



 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote





 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote




Remote adjusters for the rear shocks:

 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



This leaked steadily for 8 hours, what is it - air-con drain?

 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Full set of almost new Billstein B4 shocks (M029) and cabriolet springs, £250 to anyone that wants them all:



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting there now:






Tomorrow is all about geometry, ride height etc - very excited!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely update!

I quite like the ride height as they've left it although it'd probably rub inside the arches when loaded.

Have I mentioned that I love those wheels??

PS lovely pics, which DSLR are you using?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much as I like the look of the ride height the car would not reach my flat- it'd beach on a speed bump on the way into London.

The wheels do, I think, look nice on the car- I shall let you know if I decide to sell them however.

I'm not actually using a DSLR- it's a rangefinder camera, specifically a Fuji X-Pro2. I have deleted many crap photographs this evening!
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes .. it looks like the A/C drain .. position should be just behind the n/s/f wheel and to the left of the tunnel .
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will be interested to know what you think once you've driven it.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got home an hour or so ago, four hours of motorway which were not the roads I wanted to drive on fresh from CG.

What have we achieved over the past couple of days?

- I know a lot more about suspension, geometry, and how these things work together
- I've got a much greater appreciation for how my car is put together
- Previously "work rate" AKA front end fidget limited me to around 60 mph on a bumpy B road, on the test drive today Pete pointed out that I was doing 96 mph under the same conditions that normally stopped play 36mph previously
- The car is more comfortable than it was over broken surfaces
- It has far less roll
- Accelerate and it goes directly forward instead of heading to the right
- It looks great with a 20mm drop:



- It was a great two days, I really enjoyed myself and I can't wait to get a couple of hundred miles of A and B roads under the tyres at the weekend

This is the geo we ended up with:



And the costs, as I'm trying to keep this thread as transparent as possible:
£2,163.89 Ohlins R/T from Design911
£332.10 Ohlins springs from CG
£1,539.95 Ohlins remote adjusters, misc nuts and bolts, spring perch adjustment, two days of work, day one fitting, day two setting up, from CG
£18 wheel balance, place local to CG

Which gives us:
£4,053.94

And add say £300 for the hotel, food, petrol and so forth if you stay up there (should anyone else wish to follow this path).

Bring on the weekend!
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a different note, I've just been adding the CG receipts to my history file and checked the invoice from October last year - I wish I hadn't bought brand new Bilstein B4's then, but there you go:



So! Let my loss be your gain, £900 worth of suspension, 5,000 miles from new - take it away for £250 including the standard (cab) springs. This is the M029 suspension in Porsche language.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demort wrote:
Yes .. it looks like the A/C drain .. position should be just behind the n/s/f wheel and to the left of the tunnel .


That's exactly where it is - should it leak continuously for 8 hours?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete checking that this is 118mm:



And that this is 135mm:



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take the suspension please.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Winner - I'm in SE23, it's all boxed up and ready to go.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit wrote:
Winner - I'm in SE23, it's all boxed up and ready to go.


That's great, I'll work out when I'm nearish and see what we cant work out, could you pm me a phone number please.
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