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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unsure if these are 17 or 18, but they look good I think:


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit wrote:
Unsure if these are 17 or 18, but they look good I think:



I think they look like 18” That’s only a guess based on what my17’s look like.
Mine are made by Braid.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 99% sure the ones on that silver car are the same as I had on mine, Kerscher FX.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These? Seem to only be available in solid black on their site.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

17" wheels may be lighter than 18".

But, the offset may need adjusting with spacers, adding weight. Also the thicker tyre wall adds more rubber, adding weight. The wheel weight website (sorry don't have the link to hand on my mobile) handily quotes tyre weight for different 17" and 18" tyres. 17's aren't lighter as you may expect.

Obviously tyres will affect the moment of inertia more than the rims.

Neil, I can help with pics if you want. I have 18" Otto Fuchsfelage.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were to drive down to the Brighton area, once I get the exhaust manifolds back on the car, could I ask a tremendous favour and stick your wheels on my car to see what it looks like?

The 17" ten spokes I have in the garage I can weigh, actually quite interested in what they weigh with tyres now - but then I've been at the trail centre both days of the weekend, so may be suffering from low blood sugar.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep....

Though maybe just see it in the flesh as it were. Is yours still at Precision? I can have a nimble out to Sheffield Park on Wednesday if you're about?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The car will probably still be with us on wednesday to be honest .
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in Rome mid-week I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice! - PM me with some dates, I'm working this weekend but around late next week. Ian will have stripped and rebuilt the motor by then!!!! And I might get round to washing mine...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamesx19 wrote:
17" wheels may be lighter than 18".

But, the offset may need adjusting with spacers, adding weight. Also the thicker tyre wall adds more rubber, adding weight. The wheel weight website (sorry don't have the link to hand on my mobile) handily quotes tyre weight for different 17" and 18" tyres. 17's aren't lighter as you may expect.

Obviously tyres will affect the moment of inertia more than the rims.

Neil, I can help with pics if you want. I have 18" Otto Fuchsfelage.

Cheers


Good shout out about the less may be more comment. I would have to check to see what is fitted and have a weigh off with my wheels. I could have a look back through the CLR thread and see if any wheels tyre weights were mentioned when they were fitted originally. The extra sidewall does make for a comfy ride especially with the exe-tc setup. Guess rotors / bells etc another
Way of reducing the corner weight.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Link to the wheel/tyre weight chart:

http://www.944racing.de/wheelweights.php

I was wrong above. Weight of 17" Michelin Pilot Sport 2's and the Cups appear to be around 0.7 - 1 kg lighter than 18" tyres.

I'd be interested to know the weight difference between the Braid BRZ wheels and the Fuchs Tony. The Braids say they are cast then welded to a forged rim (or the other way round I can't remember) The Otto Fuchs are a single forged piece.

I can't remember how the car drove on the heavier GT3 rims now, so maybe all a bit academic anyway. But really happy with the look. Which is important too right? Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamesx19 wrote:
Link to the wheel/tyre weight chart:

http://www.944racing.de/wheelweights.php

I was wrong above. Weight of 17" Michelin Pilot Sport 2's and the Cups appear to be around 0.7 - 1 kg lighter than 18" tyres.

I'd be interested to know the weight difference between the Braid BRZ wheels and the Fuchs Tony. The Braids say they are cast then welded to a forged rim (or the other way round I can't remember) The Otto Fuchs are a single forged piece.

I can't remember how the car drove on the heavier GT3 rims now, so maybe all a bit academic anyway. But really happy with the look. Which is important too right? Cool


Absolutely, it’s form is just as important as function! 😎👍
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picked the car up today, was going to drive back home but ended up taking a 200 mile detour. Even in dreadful weather these are great cars to drive - I love how flat they are through a corner, resolutely refusing to roll as lateral forces ramp up and up. Additional benefit of surprising my parents when I popped in for a cup of tea, so some filial points accrued there.

Gaskets! Precision deserve some recognition for doing really well here - the Porsche gaskets available these days are one type, for the 3.6, and weren't sealing on my 3.4 as the mating surface is corroded somewhat.

Precision managed to locate some NOS 3.4 gaskets, and get everything sealed up neatly. Iain had the traditional handful of snapped bolts to show me, which is I believe how a 996 shows that it likes you.

I'm a bit taken aback at how different the port sizes are for a 200cc capacity increase:


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can i humbly just add .. my thanks to Hartech for saving the day .. we had no idea these gaskets were no longer available.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't stop looking at this Surprised


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
I can't stop looking at this Surprised


I would like to know exactly what they are.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
I can't stop looking at this Surprised


Alex,
I think you've found your short term solution to a car upgrade. Buy these wheels/springs/wheel arch/stickers and you are officially winning. If and when you want to upgrade, move the wheels over to the new car or put them up for sale.
This is a winning formula in my book
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they the wheels here ...

https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod127955/18--Fuchs-Alloy-Wheels-SET-OF-4-in-Silver-80J-and-10J-For-Porsche-Car/
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly! Coulster thought that they were Kercher FX which are 20mm further out than the actual Fuchs on the D911 site.

20mm is significant, makes a huge difference to how the wheels look - so important to know what the wheels are before committing to ~£2,000 worth of wheels.
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