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Leosayer
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:40 pm    Post subject: Service interval for low mileage Reply with quote

I've have my car serviced every 12 months but is this really necessary given that I only do 3,000 miles a year?

What about every 18 months instead?
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair point but got to worth an oil change every 12 months. The oil is still 12 months old even if the car's only done a few thousand miles using it.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be every 12 months and if you are not driving it during the winter and it is laid up, then your service should be when it comes out of hibernation.

Whilst I don't know the condition of mileage of your 993, what I would say is that if you were selling at some point in the future, you will get marked down if you have not followed the schedule.

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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Millions of years in the making only to go off after 12 month sitting in a sump.

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tyinsky
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't imagine oil going off that quickly on a low mileage car? From the 997.2 and 987.2 cars the intervals have been 2-years.

What about short servicing it if you are not covering mileage and maybe doing the major service every 3-years instead of two with the minor service for the two in between? From memory RGA in Vauxhall do something like that to cars that have not traveled far over 12-months?

Asked my local OPC for a 48k service price today and they came back with £1,681.50 Grin
 
  
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dommorton
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This drives me nuts too as my car has on some years done about 500 miles between oil changes.

There's no way it's necessary and it's certainly questionably beneficial. Alas unless we get the whole of the 993 brethren to agree, we're all stuck with it for fear of harming the provenance frustrated

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for maintenance when required. This just seems a little OTT really.
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3,000 miles per year? I've only done 3,000 since I bought it three years (and three services) ago...

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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

996ttalot wrote:
Whilst I don't know the condition of mileage of your 993, what I would say is that if you were selling at some point in the future, you will get marked down if you have not followed the schedule.


I doubt I'd be paying top dough for an example that has more than a 12 month service gap Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL Zingers ....... I doubt if you would be wanting to pay "top dough" for one that had been religiously serviced all it's life and came with a folder of receipts several inches thick of all receipts and bills ...... old MOTs ...... original bill of sale and all petrol receipts from day one ....... Floor
 
  
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tyinsky
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gunner wrote:
3,000 miles per year? I've only done 3,000 since I bought it three years (and three services) ago...

Embarassed


I've almost done 9,000 so far and I still not had the car 12-months. France twice, Alps, Monaco, Wild Atlantic Way in Ireland, Wales, North Coast 500 in Scotland. No point in spending so much on something and not using it. Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your car is having low mileage between the years you can use common sense and replace the Oil and filter, and change the pollen and air filter less frequently. Oil is pretty cheap (even 11 litres of Mobil 1's finest) in the grand scheme of running a car.
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dommorton
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Price not so much the issue for me, though of course also a consideration; More the inconvenience and waste.
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tyinsky wrote:
No point in spending so much on something and not using it. Smile


Couldn't agree more thumbsup
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tyinsky wrote:
gunner wrote:
3,000 miles per year? I've only done 3,000 since I bought it three years (and three services) ago...

Embarassed


I've almost done 9,000 so far and I still not had the car 12-months. France twice, Alps, Monaco, Wild Atlantic Way in Ireland, Wales, North Coast 500 in Scotland. No point in spending so much on something and not using it. Smile


With those trips I'm guessing you don't have 3 young kids...

Lack of use is no reflection of desire not to use it, just lack of time. It's definitely no 'garage queen'!
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gunner wrote:
tyinsky wrote:
gunner wrote:
3,000 miles per year? I've only done 3,000 since I bought it three years (and three services) ago...

Embarassed


I've almost done 9,000 so far and I still not had the car 12-months. France twice, Alps, Monaco, Wild Atlantic Way in Ireland, Wales, North Coast 500 in Scotland. No point in spending so much on something and not using it. Smile


With those trips I'm guessing you don't have 3 young kids...

Lack of use is no reflection of desire not to use it, just lack of time. It's definitely no 'garage queen'!


Even surprised me how many I've managed. The biggest of all the trips I did on business – London to Valbonne near Nice. thumbsup
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd always change the oil every 12 months .. oil is not something that stays clean and stable, it soon gets full of contaminants ... I was always told that used oil just sitting there for long periods of time wasn't good, from moisture buildup to acidic properties.

even a quick search on the web explains this

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-forum/812646-why-is-it-necessary-to-change-oil-after-one-year-regardless-of-low-mileage.html

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/importance-of-clean-oil/
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dommorton
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our oil mostly sits outside of the engine. I can't see it making a bit of difference with a modern oil to be honest. Sitting in a plastic bottle or most of it sitting in your oil tank.

I'm not going to break the cycle, but I can't buy that a car doing less than 1k a year needs 10L odd of fresh oil every year; Especially when during use each of those litres has actually done so little work inside the engine itself.

Heck, the 'new' oil you put in could even be older than the stuff you take out if it's been in a warehouse for a while Grin
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not so much the age, but the fact the oil has already taken in contaminants from those 1000 miles of running... and if the journeys have been short then the car will have been on its enrichment cycle more & the oil would have spent less time 'hot ' so could be less clean than you think

Each to their own, but I change the oil and filters on my 911's each year no matter what ... I also try and do a minmimum 40 miles for each journey too
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With you on avoiding short cold runs. The main reason my mileage ends up so low is that the miles covered are occasion miles only. Usually single trips of 100+ miles getting nice and warm. Unfortunately my opportunities for 'occasion' miles are few and far and hence annual mileage is stupidly low.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dommorton wrote:
With you on avoiding short cold runs. The main reason my mileage ends up so low is that the miles covered are occasion miles only. Usually single trips of 100+ miles getting nice and warm. Unfortunately my opportunities for 'occasion' miles are few and far and hence annual mileage is stupidly low.

Exactly the same for me - for the sake of £300 or so (OK that's not small change, but running an older sports car is never going to be cheap) for an annual 'minor' service - it keeps the regular stamps in the book too which despite what some people say, could make soooooo much of a difference come sale time.
 
  
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