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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:52 pm    Post subject: Road Trip to Monaco in the 'GT2RS' (on trip adding photos) Reply with quote

OK Gents hoping to get some help here.

I'm planning my first proper road trip in August in the 911. I'm having some final work done on it in July and then August I'm hoping to drive to Monaco with my lady friend.

I'm trying to find any car events (cars & Coffee etc) that might be on in the area, but not having much luck right now. Anyone have any ideas of websites where I can look?

Also if you have any other advice about things I should do to prepare or places I should visit that would be good. My lady friend wants to visit some other places as well so we are trying to figure out some places not too far away from Monaco (say 3-4 hours max)

We are planning to stop half way or so to break up the trip down so I was thinking Reims, anyone got any other ideas?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't really help with events, but on the way there, do take in the col de Vence. Cracking road across from the route Napoleon, but without the traffic and more spectacular.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check if club911med are up to anything over that period. Will write some suggestions up over the weekend.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Check if club911med are up to anything over that period. Will write some suggestions up over the weekend.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last few times I've done it in a oner each way from Blackburn, but if I do a stop over, always St Quentin (about 60 miles north of Reims). Nice little town with easy access from the auto-route and a square with restaurants and bars around it. I find it's a nice halfway (timewise, not distance) stop as once you've travelled down through the UK, it's tedious enough to deserve a break. It's around a 9hr drive down to the riviera from there or an hour or so longer if you come off the auto-routes for some scenic action.

With regards to the auto-routes, deffo worth getting a sanef tag in your car so you can drive right through the tolls without stopping (they bill your credit card when you get home). Saves loads of time, especially when going down in the most hideous month of the year:

https://www.saneftolling.co.uk/

That reminds me - don't forget to read up on the new law that came into place last week about emissions and city driving (Paris & Lyon). Not displaying a sticker means a hefty fine:

https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/en/

Coming down I now like to cut off the main route just before Lyon (which can be a pain to drive through) and head across to Grenoble and drop down the A51 onto the D1075 down to Sisteron. Fantastic road and scenery as seen here:


Open Youtube Page




You also have the option of heading down the route Napoleon instead. Not done that but many say it's another great route, although I'm led to believe it can be a bit more 'busy' and more regulated by the police.


Open Youtube Page



Once down there, you have loads of inland places that are a blast in the car, like the legendary Verdon Gorge. Get up there early to avoid tourist disappointment. Can get a bit busy in the afternoon.


Open Youtube Page



As you'll probably know, most places along the coast are worth a visit: St Tropez, Cannes, Antibes, Nice, Villefranche-sur-mer, Monaco & Menton. If you do go St Tropez during the day, Pampelonne beach for lunch is a must.

The problem down there is so much to see in so little time......and personally - I've not gone down in August for around 7 years now due to the hideousness of traffic and holiday goers from every part of Europe.

Here's my write-up from last time I went down in the car:

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=106094

and a couple of websites that might have a couple of things on:

https://www.mediterranee-porscheclub.fr/

http://www.happyfewracing.com/
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did one of the Happy Few Racing events a few years ago with Total911 mag and it was a great event, very well organised and the people are really nice. Its not a cheap event but worth it if the timing is right for you.

As you probably know there are loads of great roads once you get south of Lyon and there are a few places you can show your lady that she will fall in love with. Annecy, East of Lyon, is one place you could visit and there are some great roads heading to the Cote d'Azur from there.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
Last few times I've done it in a oner each way from Blackburn, but if I do a stop over, always St Quentin (about 60 miles north of Reims). Nice little town with easy access from the auto-route and a square with restaurants and bars around it. I find it's a nice halfway (timewise, not distance) stop as once you've travelled down through the UK, it's tedious enough to deserve a break. It's around a 9hr drive down to the riviera from there or an hour or so longer if you come off the auto-routes for some scenic action.

With regards to the auto-routes, deffo worth getting a sanef tag in your car so you can drive right through the tolls without stopping (they bill your credit card when you get home). Saves loads of time, especially when going down in the most hideous month of the year:

https://www.saneftolling.co.uk/

That reminds me - don't forget to read up on the new law that came into place last week about emissions and city driving (Paris & Lyon). Not displaying a sticker means a hefty fine:

https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/en/

Coming down I now like to cut off the main route just before Lyon (which can be a pain to drive through) and head across to Grenoble and drop down the A51 onto the D1075 down to Sisteron. Fantastic road and scenery as seen here:


Open Youtube Page




You also have the option of heading down the route Napoleon instead. Not done that but many say it's another great route, although I'm led to believe it can be a bit more 'busy' and more regulated by the police.


Open Youtube Page



Once down there, you have loads of inland places that are a blast in the car, like the legendary Verdon Gorge. Get up there early to avoid tourist disappointment. Can get a bit busy in the afternoon.


Open Youtube Page



As you'll probably know, most places along the coast are worth a visit: St Tropez, Cannes, Antibes, Nice, Villefranche-sur-mer, Monaco & Menton. If you do go St Tropez during the day, Pampelonne beach for lunch is a must.

The problem down there is so much to see in so little time......and personally - I've not gone down in August for around 7 years now due to the hideousness of traffic and holiday goers from every part of Europe.

Here's my write-up from last time I went down in the car:

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=106094

and a couple of websites that might have a couple of things on:

https://www.mediterranee-porscheclub.fr/

http://www.happyfewracing.com/


This is great thank you for taking the time to write it. I'll go through it again when I get an hour to rest. I watched the last video, beautiful scenery I can't wait to see some of this.

You know I didn't even think about how busy it will be in August, what a plonker I am. I've arranged my leave to have July and August off and my car is getting work done all through July so it leaves me only with August to make the trip. Hmm maybe end of August? Haha sure it will be empty then.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, later into August does seem to quiten off. The French have the whole of August off.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
Yeah, later into August does seem to quiten off. The French have the whole of August off.


A plus point when I lived in Paris, it was like a ghost town when they'd all ****** off South.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I popped down a couple of years ago and took an alternative route in that we went down on the ferry to Santandar (~24 hours). I would highly recommend that as an alternative. The north of Spain was fabulous and once into France we were both fresh and able to make the most of the south coast.

Saint Tropez was good for a night out although very expensive and hotels were busy even in September when we were there. Route Napoleon and Stelvio pass are a must.

Lastly be careful in the southern French towns as many of the coastal bits had speed ramps. No good if you are low slung.

Enjoy it.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pip1968 wrote:
I popped down a couple of years ago and took an alternative route in that we went down on the ferry to Santandar (~24 hours). I would highly recommend that as an alternative. The north of Spain was fabulous and once into France we were both fresh and able to make the most of the south coast.

Saint Tropez was good for a night out although very expensive and hotels were busy even in September when we were there. Route Napoleon and Stelvio pass are a must.

Lastly be careful in the southern French towns as many of the coastal bits had speed ramps. No good if you are low slung.

Enjoy it.

Pip


This may be an option. My lady friend is Peruvian and was hinting at time in Spain. She's also ex cruise ship crew so she'd like being at sea again.
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Surprised Surprised Surprised I was going to say WTF but shall not bother it looks like its going to happen Hand
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
isysman wrote:
alex yates wrote:
Surprised

Have I really just read that?


Must have been a typo Dont know


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Isys you going to do one of your epic vids of the key parts of the trip mate.
not necessarily the part mentioned by Norfolk & Idea, I was thinking more the route and some of those driving roads. etc. Grin Grin Grin


Yeah that's the plan, although I'm not sure how much filming I can get done with her sitting on the car with me. I said I wanted a day in Monaco to go filming which she's OK with.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi just speaking to a friend and he was stopped only 10 mins after leaving the tunnel by the friendly helpful French police and they asked to see his high vis jacket which he had ready to hand, they said he needed 1 jacket for every seat in the car regardless of how many people were in it, I ve not heard this one and let's be fair who is in a good position to argue with them when there stood there in there big boots and guns. He got let of but told that he needed 1 per seat .
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi just speaking to a friend and he was stopped only 10 mins after leaving the tunnel by the friendly helpful French police and they asked to see his high vis jacket which he had ready to hand, they said he needed 1 jacket for every seat in the car regardless of how many people were in it, I ve not heard this one and let's be fair who is in a good position to argue with them when there stood there in there big boots and guns. He got let of but told that he needed 1 per seat .


They are so ridiculous. Luckily I have only two seats, so I'll make sure I get one each. Thanks for the heads up.
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I have been down to nice quite a bit with work lately as Accenture have their new r&d tech innovation in Sophia near antibes

Antibes is a really nice town to stay in and so much cheaper than Cannes or Monaco.

Its about 45 min drive to st tropez or Monaco.

We always stay in the French Riviera hotel which is where the big tennis place is too. Its called the beachconber hotel. Loads of safe parking and a bit up in the hills.

I keep seeing a really nice blue 964 and black 993

Watch the traffic in st Tropez and Monaco. Sometimes an hour to get into the town centre!! We have done a few trips down there in the hire car and its always the same.

I do love that part of the world and could easily retire there. St remo is nice on the other side of the border too and not far from Monaco too.
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So it's getting closer now but I've not arranged my trip very much. I've been looking at the ferry option but is £400 for the trip and that's the 28 hour trip. Anyone know any secrets for getting better rates? I'm shocked that th ferry company sells a 24+ sailing and only offers 'reclining chairs' rather than a cabin!

I really like the idea of this trip, my lady friend's family originate from this area so it would be very nice for her to see it.
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You might prefer the Economy ships out of Portsmouth to Northern Spain, they take 2 hours longer and cars on deck but much more relaxed than Plymouth ferries which send your car down into the bowels of the ship all packed in like sardines - not good for scratches and door dings and it took 70 minutes from docking to exit the ship. But, assuming the 'GT2RS', with its low ground clearance you might be lucky and be spared the sardine can.
 
  
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Hi, yeah I'm planning to sail from Portsmouth as I don't fancy the drive to Plymouth. The only issue is there are three ferries that I can see, a 19 hour, 24 hour and 28 hour. The only one that seems to offer a cabin is the longest one. Don't fancy being onboard for effectively a day and a half but I also don't want a 19 hour trip with no cabin. The ferries to Rotterdam from Hull are all cabin affairs.
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Ah, it depends how much driving you want to do. Chunnel is quickest but most road mileage, ditto ferries from Dover. Caen and Le Havre are around 5/6 hours from Portsmouth.

I've just been wrestling with how to get my car down to Spain and Portugal for some track days and initially paid £35 deposit for Portsmouth/Northern Spain ferry but ended up having it shipped there and back with me travelling on a plane, which is OK if you trust the truck operator and don't want to enjoy the drive. Probably something like £1500 return Cheshire/SoF. (I am in Devon so my truck contacts not relevant).

Good luck, sounds a fun trip.
 
  
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