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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:29 pm    Post subject: Dash Cams Front & Rear - Hard Wired Reply with quote

I would much appreciate any advice and makes that members may have fitted or suggest.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful as had one under the front mirror connected to the cigarette lighter and nocked the sat nav gps signal out found out that it caused the signal get confused went to Ramus Porsche we thought the sat nav unit was scrap tried new GPS receivers spent a few hours Mark move the camera and it fixed it in the end we positioned it in the right hand top corner far enough away from the sat nav unit all good now mine

Also put in the rear of my Range Rover sport and it took the dab radio signal out yet when in the front sat nav was fine so now have one in the front of each car mine is a next base 212
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want one of the best, a friend has the Black Vue in his car, with a Wi-Fi hotspot in the glove box that links to his smart phone and it's stunning but expensive.
There's literally dozens on the market and I'm loathed to go out without one after getting clouted a few years ago and the other guy lied like a flatfish and we had to go knock for knock.
Some companies will take them into account when you renew your insurance but above all it's the peace of mind.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got one in my car, however be careful if you get pulled over as the Police with sieze it as evidence, the recordings could be far more severe than the original offence.

I know of individuals who have been given custodial sentences based on evidence captured on camera footage.

So be careful whichever set up you decide upon.

As mentioned blackvue are one of the most descreat and compact forward facing cameras.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikeracer1098 wrote:
I've got one in my car, however be careful if you get pulled over as the Police with sieze it as evidence, the recordings could be far more severe than the original offence.

I know of individuals who have been given custodial sentences based on evidence captured on camera footage.

So be careful whichever set up you decide upon.

As mentioned blackvue are one of the most descreat and compact forward facing cameras.


eh? how exactly from a picture of a bonnet could they prove it was you driving and in your car?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

easternjets wrote:
If you want one of the best, a friend has the Black Vue in his car, with a Wi-Fi hotspot in the glove box that links to his smart phone and it's stunning but expensive.
There's literally dozens on the market and I'm loathed to go out without one after getting clouted a few years ago and the other guy lied like a flatfish and we had to go knock for knock.
Some companies will take them into account when you renew your insurance but above all it's the peace of mind.



For all of your advice its good x
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seeforez wrote:
Bikeracer1098 wrote:
I've got one in my car, however be careful if you get pulled over as the Police with sieze it as evidence, the recordings could be far more severe than the original offence.

I know of individuals who have been given custodial sentences based on evidence captured on camera footage.

So be careful whichever set up you decide upon.

As mentioned blackvue are one of the most descreat and compact forward facing cameras.


eh? how exactly from a picture of a bonnet could they prove it was you driving and in your car?


Have you ever watched the HD footage from a dashcam?
Normally your speed is also captured on the footage unless you disable that function.

Just a word of warning rather than learning the hard way stood in the dock of a magistrates or Crown Court.

From the footage they could even prosecute for dangerous driving which has a minimum penalty of 12 months ban with an extended retest and also a possibility of a castodial sentence.

Do some google searches.

Some examples of bikes charges from evidence on headcams

http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2016-01-22/motorcyclist-filmed-himself-speeding-at-155mph-jailed/

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/motorcyclist-jailed-for-two-years-after-headcam-footage-showed-him-speeding-at-more-than-150mph-a3163651.html%3Famp

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11817066/Lunatic-motorcyclist-jailed-for-driving-at-153mph.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3344563/Dangerous-driver-jailed-dashcam-footage-video-reckless-overtaking-forced-Ford-Transit-road.html
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes your right, although if it was me i would state i had just bought it off a man in the pub and i hadnt used it yet - 'honest yor honor'
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was tempted to install a small discrete camera that also recorded when I was parked up, but decided against it as my battery drains too fast as it is!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seeforez wrote:
yes your right, although if it was me i would state i had just bought it off a man in the pub and i hadnt used it yet - 'honest yor honor'


Only giving people the heads up warning as I was nearly in a difficult suitation last year due to my dashcam recording.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay. wrote:
I was tempted to install a small discrete camera that also recorded when I was parked up, but decided against it as my battery drains too fast as it is!


With blackvue you can purchase power magic pro that prevents your battery from getting drained whilst the car is parked.

https://www.blackvue.com/power-magic-pro/

Halfords were running a 10% off promotion on dashcams including the blackvue which made them the cheapest.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firm advice from all Bandit

Much appreciated lads
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive also got this one fitted to my BMW M3 daily driver which I would also recommend. Probably the best camera on the market along with blackvue

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductMobileDisplay?catalogId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=306753&productId=1283131&storeId=10001

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http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductMobileDisplay?catalogId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=306753&productId=1307422&storeId=10001
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikeracer1098 wrote:
Jay. wrote:
I was tempted to install a small discrete camera that also recorded when I was parked up, but decided against it as my battery drains too fast as it is!


With blackvue you can purchase power magic pro that prevents your battery from getting drained whilst the car is parked.

https://www.blackvue.com/power-magic-pro/

Halfords were running a 10% off promotion on dashcams including the blackvue which made them the cheapest.


How does that work? Turn the camera off when the battery gets to a certain voltage?.. That's something that would change my mind.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the nextbase one from Halfords (212 I think). (The one without GPS so it doesn't also record your speed!)

I ran a new power socket from the fuse box which is switched live so it comes on and off when the car is running.
They also have a battery and it has a function whereby even when it is off it will switch on and start recording if it is knocked - like if someone hits your car while parked. I dont think think I have enabled tire but I am sure it isn't there.
Cost £60 and I have them in each of our cars.
Footage quality is very good.
It's bigger than the blackvue but it is mostly positioned behind the mirror so I forget it is there.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of good advice on this site Bandit




Thanks to all Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for interest I hardwired mine by the following:
Removed interior light, could not find a switched lived, so ran a wire by removing pass side side windscreen trim.
Starting at the top of the side trim, Pushed wire under headlining past pass vanity mirror, so it poked out the interior light gap.,, then ran other end past air vent, then under dash, just above the foam cover on the footwell, popped off the centre console carpet trim and then used a switch live from the radio to power the 12v to 5v adaptor.
so now a hidden wire than pops put just above the mirror. Quite neat really.
Ive bought a couple of 10 quid dashcams from ebay, they have worked faultlessly. Looking at the video they arent bad, good enough for me. If you are into tech and want bluetooth phone link uploads, then I can see that you want better, but Ive had theses in other cars for years and never needed them. They will catch a crash , of course if you want to spend hours on youtube uploading high def videos then spend more, but my life isnt that dull that I have time.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Cams Front & Rear - Hard Wired Reply with quote

I bought the Lukas LK-7950 about 18 months ago with a second rear camera and had them installed in both cars. Which means that I simply swap the front camera into whichever car I'm using. The total from car camera shop.co.uk including both installations was just over £700. A single front/rear kit plus installation would have been about £470
I chose the Lukas over Blackvue on the basis of better reviews at the time and I've been very pleased with it. The camera transmits it's own WiFi hotspot so that I can connect my iPhone to review footage and whilst I haven't needed to use it for an insurance claim, I did have a nutter in Range Rover go the wrong side of a keep left bollard to overtake me in a 20 limit road outside a school. I submitted the footage to police witness.com and got an email from the Bill 3 months later saying that he had opted for an awareness course to avoid prosecution.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cheers gentlemen - I will get it fitted and mention your remarks

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went for Thinkware F770 that has a built in voltage detector in the same ilk as the power magic pro. The Thinkware does not broadcast to cloud but it does act as a hotspot for you to configure the device and offload footage.

The front and rear cameras are very discreet and footage of Full HD quality with little noise even at night. At night, if a car is tailgating too close, their number plate can be seen every time I brake. The red brake lights reflect off the front white number plate and quite visible on the footage.

Wiring is relatively straight forward, using A10 and C6 as others have.

Only issue I have seen is where I placed the bundled up excess rear camera cable in the right side A pillar trim. The wiring is fitted next to what appears to be a module for the windscreen aerial and affects certain FM radio stations. So I will open up the A pillar trim and move the bundle higher or lower to see if this improves the radio reception.
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