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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:29 pm    Post subject: Claying alternatives... Reply with quote

I've never been especially fond of claying, is it always necessary?

Not clayed mine for 18 months, was wondering if some iron fallout remover and tar remover before snowfoam and washing, then my usual Zymol HD cleanse and wax will be sufficient.

Or any other less faffy alternatives to claying?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still claying as such, but easier:
http://www.slimsdetailing.co.uk/polishing/clay-bars-mitts-lube/dodo-juice-sponge-clay-pad-fine.html

I use one and find it a bad boy. Less faff, good results.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best way firstly is to use a product such as 'Iron X'.
It basically breaks down all surface contaminents, turns them purple and then you're ready to hose them off. It does smell by the way but is brilliant!
Try it on your wheels first and watch them turn purple instantly.
Once decom'd I then lightly clay but you find the previous step rids the paint of all the nasties.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garcia G3 Formula Clay mitt gets my vote, got mine from Halfords, makes the job easy and was pleased with results. Sure its been discussed before on here, do a search.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO claying is a vital stage in preparation for polishing if you want to achieve the best possible result.
It's not a job I mind doing and once it's been done fairly easy to go over your car to freshen the paint work say once a year.
Clay clothes and mitts are now used quite widely to speed up the process but I like to use a bar and work on a panel at a time.

I'm currently working through a multi stage full detail. Iron X de-tar and clay completed, about to start a 2 stage machine polish before a final coat of Swissvax Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will Iron X not rid Tar?
If not, which de tar fluid do you use?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iron x is fall out remover and won't remove tar.

I always use Tardis tar remover.

Both products do roughly the same function but on different contaminants.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to use valet-pro dragons breath on the wheels but it seems to coat the steel brake discs and takes qiuite of braking to remove it and yes it does smell like nothing else you've ever sniffed. Now use the Bilberry wheel cleaner, very pleased with it.

G3 clay mitt is very easy to use, plenty of lubricant and it does a good job.. If you feel the need to use a clay bar, the BH ones only need water as a lubricant.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CarPro Trix does both, iron and tar, works ace for me.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CarPro Trix does both, iron and tar, works ace for me.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stucart wrote:
Garcia G3 Formula Clay mitt gets my vote, got mine from Halfords, makes the job easy and was pleased with results. Sure its been discussed before on here, do a search.


Agree Yup what Stu said
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KJD wrote:
Iron x is fall out remover and won't remove tar.

I always use Tardis tar remover.

Both products do roughly the same function but on different contaminants.


Excited to try Iron X and Tardis, as I was just thinking about getting round to the annual polish...

What is "fall out"?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about the double post - not sure how that happened.

Getting all the stuff ready for my spring blitz too:

Trix
Clay
Poorboys SSR2
Poorboys Polish
Poorboys White diamond
Dodojuice Diamond white

In that order.

Yes it's a white car.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys, I ordered some Bilt Hamber Korrosol iron remover, and some G Techniq tar remover.

The paint feels not too bad, so hopefully after decontaminating, claying shouldn't be too tedious as the paint feels mostly good...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outliar wrote:
KJD wrote:
Iron x is fall out remover and won't remove tar.

I always use Tardis tar remover.

Both products do roughly the same function but on different contaminants.


Excited to try Iron X and Tardis, as I was just thinking about getting round to the annual polish...

What is "fall out"?


It's just all the debris and metal particles in the atmosphere that sticks to the body work .
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trix for me. Probably not as effective as separate iron and tar remover but it works for me and saves a little bit of time.

I used to use a clay bar but now use a clay mitt. I just find it less faff to be honest.

And I always remove the iron and tar first, before claying.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clay mitt recommendations?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Clay mitt recommendations?
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Farecla G3 clay mitt.

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