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Bigfra
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bit like when you went to a nightclub years ago and they told "regulars only"

How the fxxk do you become a regular if they don't let you in Grin
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, would be interesting to know what expenditure over what sort of time period, entitles you to be one of the chosen few... And how that may vary from dealer to dealer... Question
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah def vary from dealer to dealer and how much they like you! by all accounts i don't think they are getting many cars to start with, one dealership said 7, another around 15. I did have a sit in my first porsche, a gen 1 car but not the spec i would choose.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

West London OPC got 12

Unfortunately one was not for me nooo
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seanyboy wrote:
Yeah def vary from dealer to dealer and how much they like you! by all accounts i don't think they are getting many cars to start with, one dealership said 7, another around 15. I did have a sit in my first porsche, a gen 1 car but not the spec i would choose.


The thing that really gets me about the whole GT3 allocation saga is that the Gen 1 car that you may eventually purchase will be close to the same price as a Gen 2, have had 2-3 owners, maybe 5-15K miles, has some compromises on the spec and is maybe 2-3 years old. Yet the OPC is happy to punt this out alongside a new Gen 2 car (at the same price) sitting in the same showroom.

So, so ironic from a company that says that it does not profiteer from its normal volume models. Wall

For me personally, much as I love the idea of a GT3 with my heart, my head says to give it a miss so long as this hypocrisy exists. nooo
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, to be frank, this would all stop if people refused to pay over list for second hand cars...

These cars aren't rare, they're just part bin specials with slight variations on the base cooking models, imo...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

s2000db wrote:
Well, to be frank, this would all stop if people refused to pay over list for second hand cars...

These cars aren't rare, they're just part bin specials with slight variations on the base cooking models, imo...


Have to disagree with you on the part bin specials bit. They really aren't mate Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigfra wrote:
s2000db wrote:
Well, to be frank, this would all stop if people refused to pay over list for second hand cars...

These cars aren't rare, they're just part bin specials with slight variations on the base cooking models, imo...


Have to disagree with you on the part bin specials bit. They really aren't mate Smile


Well the bodyshells are the same, and if they chose to they could make the engines in mass quantities, but hey we get each other's drift... Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've all watched Super Car builds show where they walk you through the build process. All the parts arrive just in time through clever planning software. There is no reason why we shouldn't be able to build an FZP special 911 for arguments sake.
They choose not to.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRZ911 wrote:
seanyboy wrote:
Yeah def vary from dealer to dealer and how much they like you! by all accounts i don't think they are getting many cars to start with, one dealership said 7, another around 15. I did have a sit in my first porsche, a gen 1 car but not the spec i would choose.


The thing that really gets me about the whole GT3 allocation saga is that the Gen 1 car that you may eventually purchase will be close to the same price as a Gen 2, have had 2-3 owners, maybe 5-15K miles, has some compromises on the spec and is maybe 2-3 years old. Yet the OPC is happy to punt this out alongside a new Gen 2 car (at the same price) sitting in the same showroom.

So, so ironic from a company that says that it does not profiteer from its normal volume models. Wall

For me personally, much as I love the idea of a GT3 with my heart, my head says to give it a miss so long as this hypocrisy exists. nooo
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRZ911 wrote:
seanyboy wrote:
Yeah def vary from dealer to dealer and how much they like you! by all accounts i don't think they are getting many cars to start with, one dealership said 7, another around 15. I did have a sit in my first porsche, a gen 1 car but not the spec i would choose.


The thing that really gets me about the whole GT3 allocation saga is that the Gen 1 car that you may eventually purchase will be close to the same price as a Gen 2, have had 2-3 owners, maybe 5-15K miles, has some compromises on the spec and is maybe 2-3 years old. Yet the OPC is happy to punt this out alongside a new Gen 2 car (at the same price) sitting in the same showroom.

So, so ironic from a company that says that it does not profiteer from its normal volume models. Wall

For me personally, much as I love the idea of a GT3 with my heart, my head says to give it a miss so long as this hypocrisy exists. nooo



I totally agree with what you are saying, but these are independent companies and not Porsche themselves, any business is out to make money and if the cars are going for that can you knock it?!
Don't get me wrong I hate the thought of paying the same as what a new car would cost for a used one but for me it would need to be the right spec before i can commit, I'm ion no rush anyway, i need to sell a couple of old fords first!!
Whats peoples thoughts on buying these types of cars private?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still not been told yes or no bye nooo
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigfra wrote:
Still not been told yes or no bye nooo


The old cynic in me might think this means it's really a "no" but the longer they can keep you on the hook the longer they can keep hold of your ten grand!

What a way to treat customers. You must have the patience of a saint Bigfra.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told by Porsche, that there was no guarantee that deposit payers would get a car, and that it was MY responsibility to build a relationship with my dealer... Surprised

Says it all really!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose the thing is you do have to make sure that someone at the OPC knows who you are (preferably in the sales dept)....there are certainly plenty of people who have no history of buying or owning a Porsche that want these cars so you need to differentiate yourself from them. Sadly there's no room in that model for an enthusiast owner that has say bought and run various GT3's over the last ten years all bought from independent's. They're probably the ideal owner but they just won't get a look in.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

s2000db wrote:
I was told by Porsche, that there was no guarantee that deposit payers would get a car, and that it was MY responsibility to build a relationship with my dealer... Surprised

Says it all really!


Dealers don't take deposits now on GT cars until they know they can supply the customer with a car, I paid my deposit when my DP assured me of my build slot for Sept/Oct delivery

My colour choice is between Red and GT Silver but cannot make my mind up which!!!!!




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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have that in writing btw..
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My OPC invited me to place a deposit three weeks ago (having previously expressed interest) which I did. I was explicitly told at the time that the car was not guaranteed. Whether this is them playing it safe until they have all their allocations I know not....all I do know is that it's doing nothing for my peace of mind !

As I may have written previously I think Boltongate has had an impact...lets say I am in line for a 2018 car. If the OPC tells me I have a car and puts it in writing and then Porsche scales back production for some reason next yearI've now got a claim against them potentially. So until the OPC has those slots allocated firmly they're in a difficult position.

I was told I might have to wait two months before I know!

The worst thing is the lack of consistency.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheib wrote:
My OPC invited me to place a deposit three weeks ago (having previously expressed interest) which I did. I was explicitly told at the time that the car was not guaranteed. Whether this is them playing it safe until they have all their allocations I know not....all I do know is that it's doing nothing for my peace of mind !

As I may have written previously I think Boltongate has had an impact...lets say I am in line for a 2018 car. If the OPC tells me I have a car and puts it in writing and then Porsche scales back production for some reason next yearI've now got a claim against them potentially. So until the OPC has those slots allocated firmly they're in a difficult position.

I was told I might have to wait two months before I know!

The worst thing is the lack of consistency.


Yes I'd agree on the lack of consistency between OPC's but I've been told all dealers 2017 build slots have been allocated so who knows Tumble Weed
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kryton wrote:
s2000db wrote:
I was told by Porsche, that there was no guarantee that deposit payers would get a car, and that it was MY responsibility to build a relationship with my dealer... Surprised

Says it all really!


Dealers don't take deposits now on GT cars until they know they can supply the customer with a car, I paid my deposit when my DP assured me of my build slot for Sept/Oct delivery

My colour choice is between Red and GT Silver but cannot make my mind up which!!!!!





Neither... Black with those white rear lights. And yellow PCCB of course.
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