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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:36 pm    Post subject: Option Codes and VIL - Special Editions/Equipment Packages? Reply with quote

Hi,

Following on from a recent thread regards options codes/vehicle spec and factory fit equipment I have a question.

It seems as though sometimes individual option codes are not listed when equipment is fitted as part of a package or an 'all in' model.

For example the 996 40th Anniversary models have X51 Powerkit as standard but it's not listed as an individual option on the VIL (?)

Likewise 996 Turbos with the X50 option vs. Turbo S.

Does anyone know what differential code is listed for a 996 40th?

Reason I ask is because I understand they are fitted with an LSD - does it show the LSD as an option (220?) or is it not listed as an option as it's standard with the Anniversary package?

Anyone have a 40th and able to check?

Mine has the 'X74 Sports Chassis (EXCL.)' option listed on the build spec, obviously I know this has the 30/40mm drop in ride height, different springs/dampers/top mounts/ARBs etc but were there any other changes?

Having read a bit of conflicting info on the net (not from here - Pistonheads/other sites etc) I was wondering about what exactly came as part of the Sports Chassis option. Some people have said that an LSD was included? Maybe on the earlier pre-facelifted 996s - no idea.

I then saw a thread on here where someone had found they had an LSD fitted upon removal and they weren't aware that option was fitted.

Seems a bit of a mystery - would be interested in anyone can shed any light on it thumbsup

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to an article comparing it with a 4S in 911 and Porsche World mag, the 40th edition has a mechanical LSD as well as the uprated power, PSM and lower and firmer suspension. Not gospel of course but probably correct.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Thanks for that - pretty much what I thought, I know it has an LSD but was interested to know what is listed on the VIL for the diff code Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Adrian Streather..

"The 40th anniversary car came with a mechanical LSD with locking rates of 22% under acceleration and 27% under lock-up".

Later on in his book '996 The Essential Companion' I found:

The 'Exclusiv' number listed for this 22/27 option was X75 but apparently it was only available for manual 4wd cars.

and

Option code 220 is listed as Locking Differential 40%.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further to the above X74 is listed as .....

Sports Suspension kit for narrow body 996 Coupe only. Different part number kits for the Carrera and Carrera 4 by Porsche Exclusiv. Lowers RoW 996 models by 20mm.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys.

What I'm basically asking is does anyone have access to a VIL for a 40th Anniversary 996 - and if so what is listed for the differential code?

E.g. - does it simply list the standard '219' code for differential without special mention of the LSD - as it's 'standard' with the 40th Anniversary package? Or is it listed with one of the 22x range of diff options?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

X51 996 wrote:


What I'm basically asking is does anyone have access to a VIL for a 40th Anniversary 996 - and if so what is listed for the differential code?



Try sending a pm to one of the 911ukers listed on here.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing listed on the options sticker in my 40th AE relating to the LSD as far as I can see.

According to the list I have of the general option codes for the 996 (downloaded from this website) none of the "standard" 40th items like X51, M224 LSD, sunroof, M030 suspension etc are not listed. Doesn't even seem to have any reference to the M095 code which the list seems to suggest is the catch all code for the 40th AE although the VIN number does have the 121 digits at the end which I am told was specific to the 40th AE. Clear as mud then.

All the other numbers listed seem to relate to the ones which the original owner specified from the fairly short list of options featured in the sales brochure like phones, BOSE system, comfort seats etc.

Also I have a couple of 5 digit numbers on the codes sheet which I am not sure about - 09991 and 24371 - maybe something to do with the "exclusive" programme I was told (whatever that is??). Also C16 which I think is just the code for UK supply.

Hope that helps in the quest to track down the LSD options.
If anyone knows what the above 5 digit codes are would be interested to know.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Standard options for the regional spec (C16 etc) will not be listed

09991 just means the car has exclusiv options (this is a logistics marker for the factory)

Exclusiv options are all "X00" format, and are options developed by the Exclusiv / Sonderwunsch dept, and may even require removal from the production line and and transport to that department for fitting/completion.

The last FOUR digits of your VIN are your car's serial - this is unique to your car, all prior digits may be shared (as they have a build meaning)

24371 has no specific meaning in this regard
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
Standard options for the regional spec (C16 etc) will not be listed

09991 just means the car has exclusive options (this is a logistics marker for the factory)

The last FOUR digits of your VIN are your car's serial - this is unique to your car, all prior digits may be shared (as they have a build meaning)

24371 has no specific meaning in this regard


Yes, sorry, should have been clearer - the VIN number is as normal on the sticker , then underneath on the next line is "996 121" which I think refers to the 40th AE edition - at least this is what I have been told. The "24371" number is just listed at the end of the option code list.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To put it another way OP, it would be interesting to see if other C2s of a similar vintage to yours had the '219 Differential' option.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
According to Adrian Streather..

"The 40th anniversary car came with a mechanical LSD with locking rates of 22% under acceleration and 27% under lock-up".

Later on in his book '996 The Essential Companion' I found:

The 'Exclusiv' number listed for this 22/27 option was X75 but apparently it was only available for manual 4wd cars.

and

Option code 220 is listed as Locking Differential 40%.


The 22/27 option is not an AWD thing, it is a PSM thing!

If your car has no PSM, then it can have 40/65 LSD
If your car has PSM, then it has to have 22/27 LSD
If your car is AWD it must be de-lined and sent to Sonderwunsch for off-line conversion to an AWD compatible 22/27 LSD.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moorhouse wrote:
GT4 wrote:
Standard options for the regional spec (C16 etc) will not be listed

09991 just means the car has exclusive options (this is a logistics marker for the factory)

The last FOUR digits of your VIN are your car's serial - this is unique to your car, all prior digits may be shared (as they have a build meaning)

24371 has no specific meaning in this regard


Yes, sorry, should have been clearer - the VIN number is as normal on the sticker , then underneath on the next line is "996 121" which I think refers to the 40th AE edition - at least this is what I have been told. The "24371" number is just listed at the end of the option code list.

Cheers.....Ian


Yes, 996-121 is the model identifier

In this case a 996 40th Jarhe RHD
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:
To put it another way OP, it would be interesting to see if other C2s of a similar vintage to yours had the '219 Differential' option.


219 is the diff code for all RWD 911s, it isn't an option! (ie it is the thing that means you don't have a solid rear axle!)

It will appear in the full build spec (production line recipe), but not the VIL
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
Robertb wrote:
To put it another way OP, it would be interesting to see if other C2s of a similar vintage to yours had the '219 Differential' option.


219 is the diff code for all RWD 911s, it isn't an option! (ie it is the thing that means you don't have a solid rear axle!)

It will appear in the full build spec (production line recipe), but not the VIL


Ah thanks... I'm easily confused.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep - all that makes sense Cool

What I'm asking though is what code is listed on the build spec printout from the chassis number or on the VIL?

Do the 40th AE cars have:

A) 219

Or

B) 22x (indicating a non-standard diff option)

I know that they come equipped with an LSD just wondering how Porsche indicate it on the build spec.

Anyone got a build spec sheet/printout for a 40th AE? thumbsup
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not got one but if someone can let me know where to get one I will chase up a build spec sheet for you for my car and we can see what's listed there. Assume I might get it through OPC but will need to prove ownership.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ian,

Yes my local OPC did the build spec printout for me thumbsup

I'd only just bought the car at the time so don't remember having to show V5 etc but I did have the car in with them for a health check whilst they were doing it so I guess they knew the car was mine!

Obviously don't put yourself on behalf of my curiosity but would be interesting to know and I guess the build spec printout would be nice for your history file anyway Thumb

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good excuse for a drive down there later then!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, managed to get the build sheet from OPC this afternoon - well it was sunny and dry and I needed an oil filter for the van from the nearby Halfords!!

Looks like the code listed for the LSD in the 40th is
220- Locking Differential 40%
as per the options code lists downloaded from here.

Have managed to match all the others on my build sheet apart from P15 and P16, using the list from 911uk and the one from PCGB (the link to the PCGB one is below in case anyone wants it.
https://www.porscheclubgb.com/PCGB/media/R31%20assets/Docs/Porsche-Option-Codes.pdf?ext=.pdf

Hope this helps.
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