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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:09 pm    Post subject: Exhaust Headers - Gen 1 C2S Reply with quote

As my car goes away next week for non-cosmetic surgery, I'm thinking of supplying some new headers for them to stick on when it all goes back together! Seems like a job that I may regret not having done whilst the engine is apart if I had to do it in a year or two time.

Prices vary considerably and from the £100 ebay items to £800+. I know someone on here had fitted the ebay ones and was very pleased with them, just wondering if anyone else can recommend any well priced headers. Well priced being important as I have had to sell one of my girlfriends children to pay for my rebuild Sad

I can only find the cheap ebay ones for the 3.6, don't seem t be available for the S!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't they the same for both 3.6 & 3.8? I think they are.

I have the cheapo Chinese ones off eBay and over 2 years on - can't fault them.

Here are the company that make them: http://www.mgpracing.cn/
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob, have a look at the topgear equal length headers . maybe an option at mid range money Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
Rob, have a look at the topgear equal length headers . maybe an option at mid range money Thumb


I bet they're the same ones.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also found these when looking for mine which are most definitely different from the eBay ones. They were a good buy before the euro changed:

http://www.gm-carsolution.de/PORSCHE/Faecherkruemmer-387/Faecherkruemmer-Porsche-996-997-911.html


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look for eBay item number 132080499106
Look similar to X51 but aftermarket I think. Apparently the seller has the one for the other side as well.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J Holmes wrote:
Have a look for eBay item number 132080499106
Look similar to X51 but aftermarket I think. Apparently the seller has the one for the other side as well.


Ahh! Shame, he only has the OS listed! Would have been very interested in those! frustrated
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
Aren't they the same for both 3.6 & 3.8? I think they are.

I have the cheapo Chinese ones off eBay and over 2 years on - can't fault them.

Here are the company that make them: http://www.mgpracing.cn/


I would have guessed they would be the same but when you check compatibility on ebay it says they will not fit Dont know
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do a search for 997 S headers it brings others up that say compatible with both 3.6 & 3.8 Dont know
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
If you do a search for 997 S headers it brings others up that say compatible with both 3.6 & 3.8 Dont know


Hmm, interesting! These come up as compatible:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-997-S-Sport-Exhaust-Headers-Manifolds-MK1-/142021844494?fits=Car+Make%3APorsche%7CPlat_Gen%3A997&hash=item2111295e0e:m:miKqOw87D3n7T_eS_1kdYvg

But £690 Surprised Surprised Surprised

And, they look suspiciously like the cheap Chinese ones WTF nooo
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just ordered a set of these which look to be coming from Deutschland but I suspect they are Chinese.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201800394351?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Price was £135 which is good for tuned headers.

I believe they fit all 996 variants & 997 cars with the 3.6 engine and that's confirmed on the listings compatibility list.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harv wrote:
I've just ordered a set of these which look to be coming from Deutschland but I suspect they are Chinese.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201800394351?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Price was £135 which is good for tuned headers.

I believe they fit all 996 variants & 997 cars with the 3.6 engine and that's confirmed on the listings compatibility list.

Hope this helps Thumb


But not the 3.8 Dont know
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had similar fitted and I am well happy, i also had all the bolts replaced with a titanium stud kit to avoid further issues if removal is needed.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DucatiRob wrote:
J Holmes wrote:
Have a look for eBay item number 132080499106
Look similar to X51 but aftermarket I think. Apparently the seller has the one for the other side as well.


Ahh! Shame, he only has the OS listed! Would have been very interested in those! frustrated


Those items are the stock headers from the 997.1 3.6 they look like X51 but are a smaller bore the 3.6 has different shape headers to the 3.8 they are infact better shape headers and give better gas flow. the 996 3.6 also used that shape headers. Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stever845 wrote:
I had similar fitted and I am well happy, i also had all the bolts replaced with a titanium stud kit to avoid further issues if removal is needed.


Interesting, so these fit your C2S? They look the same as the cheap ebay ones and the ones from Germany that Alex has:

http://www.gm-carsolution.de/PORSCHE/Faecherkruemmer-387/Faecherkruemmer-Porsche-996-997-911.html

To me they look the same as there is a joint in the rearmost header pipe that has the tightest bend, this is common with the ebay/Chinese ones. The topgear headers have a slightly distorted pipe where it s bent!

Still none the wiser as to whether these will fit a 3.8 Dont know
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checking the topgear, Design911 and Porscheshop websites and their headers, they all appear to fit both 996 and 997 Gen1 3.6 and 3.8 engines. So I would assume that headers advertised that fit the 997 3.6 must also fit the 3.8!!!!

Logical Question
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for logical I don't think the heads changed, I'm just fitting 3.8 head gaskets to my modified 3.6 heads.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just had confirmation from GM-carsolution.de that the ones Alex posted will fit... so think I will order a set! Thumb
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