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kas750
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT3 without question out of those two although my only reservation is that by modifying your car you have closed the boundaries between the two.
Will it still blow your socks off?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it has to be the the GT3 of the two cars Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume the GT3 will come with a decent warranty?
Just make sure that you use it loads, short & long drives, use it whenever you can for the first 3 months, traffic and Long drives, to highlight any problems so the garage can rectify them.

You’ve created an pristine car (and now sold it to a lucky buyer - madness!), please don’t do the same to your next car, use it for good times and bank those memories.

GT3 for me, unlikely to lose much value and should you sell it in a few years then that Boxter will be much cheaper if you still want one.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning Mark. Do TSR own the GT3 or is it on SOR ?
I note from your opening post on your car, that you purchased a lightly damaged aerokit front bumper, did you sell it once you'd bought the complete aerokit ?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wasz wrote:
GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3 GT3

I think you should get the GT3. Even better its a patina'd, "broken in" GT3 so you won't be afraid to use it properly.

I think everybody needs a usable 911. The spyder would make a good 2nd Porsche.

Just don't get it painted.


Grin thumbsup Cant say it any better than that.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Grin

Blimey Wasz, I agree with you and G though I think.

Thanks for the views lads, especially the Spyder insight from Griffter and ABCarrera.

You’re right it’s a very mileage driven model regarding resale etc so not ideal. Although I’m a summer use type owner anyway I suppose.

Neil I would use one of those boxes but rarely and I wouldn’t spend money on one.
I know Jon Olsson always fits them and they’re quite cool but not for me.

Gaz, thanks for that but two reasons I can’t consider it.
Main one is price. Budget creep going on there.
Second is it’s black and I swear no more black cars for a long time. Stunning when clean but that lasts all of 5 miles. Wink

Looks nice though, great mileage and KWs etc.
Too rich for me though.

Cheers Ned and yep I may have to spend a bit when I start using it obviously.

Ady, that’s the million dollar question.
Do I well and truly have my rose-tinters on and I’m gonna get the GT3 and think they aren’t all that.
My mk1 CS was special due to it being 1 of 28 uk cars. The Mk2 is positively everywhere by comparison. Wink

As I’ve said this is the issue buying a well used one and from a dealer. If I wanted to move it on, could I and if I could would I lose my shirt? Definitely yes on the last one I think.

BHZ yep I’m still erring that way at the moment.

Munky there is 3 months in-house warranty with rather a lot of exclusions when I read it,
Namely for me oil seals and oil leaks which I am most worried about.

I have no worries around the engine internals or anything.


So just rang Supercar Rooms about the GT3.
They won’t budge on price so I’m leaving it.

The car sold for just under £50k in 2014.
It has since sat and had no servicing since then.
I said I’d rather get my guy to service it so that would knock a bit off etc and I’d go to £52k.
That’s not enough so fair enough.

It has always been a hard sell that car. Silver Mk2 comfort. The ex owner before 2014 paid £31k for it in about 2012.

So that’s it for now. No rush. I need a car for August for my road trip but I can buy anything for that and sell it when I get back if it isn’t a keeper.

I’m having a look at none Porsche stuff too now so we’ll see.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

100% the correct decision.I honestly think that unless you can steal a GT3 then you would end up wedged with it if you decided it wasn’t for you.
911v tried to sell my brothers mk1 GT3 for a year and its now sat on the naughty step in his garage.
Interesting times Mark.Just sit and wait as you say as interesting times are around the corner.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes probably, although Brexit will probably not happen for another 2 or 3 years if at all, but yep GT3s are hardly flying out the door.

I still have the C2 for another week or two until my mate clears out his garage, just to add salt to my wounds. Grin

I do love that red Spyder but it’s higher miles than every other one for sale and I think I’d view it as a newish sporty but soulless car. That rear view though. Cloud 9
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh look at that GT3. Looks just like your 996 and needs loads of work doing to it, plus its no quicker in reality.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about something a bit different, epic to drive, collectable, and leaving enough in the budget for some subtle mods and carbon buckets?

https://redlinespecialistcars.co.uk/used-cars/porsche-cayman-3-4-987-r-pdk-2dr-knaresborough-201812123197004

Much more like it 👍🏻
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marky, a question if I may..,

Given your OCD like attention to detail, do you feel that you would be able to live with a well used, gravel rashed, modified GT3?

Or shortly after purchase could you see yourself looking to tip money into it, to get it to the standard of your C2?
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crash7 wrote:
Marky, a question if I may..,

Given your OCD like attention to detail, do you feel that you would be able to live with a well used, gravel rashed, modified GT3?

Or shortly after purchase could you see yourself looking to tip money into it, to get it to the standard of your C2?


I'd ask the same question. Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, cheers for the face-palm Raggy.

Good point lads and a fair one too.

When I bought the C2 I had my doubts as to whether I’d be satisfied coming from a GT3, albeit a few years later, but I was hellbent on getting back into a 911.
At the start I wasn’t but figured it was the plain looks, so I began “GT3’ing” it. That’s the most work I’ve done to any car in my 24 years of driving.

What I ended up with was a cracking car but after all that it still lacked the last 5% of the experience I wanted, which I’ve said before is the “zingy, pull on the heartstrings” bit.

I was going to bear with it, make some memories and use it loads so it became like a favourite old pair of jeans but then I had the realisation of “This is the best this car will ever be, it will only get tattier again from this point”.

So essentially I’d backed myself into a corner by making it so clean. Rolling Eyes

That was the nail in the coffin I think coupled with a wandering eye.

So really good questions as to whether I can live with a tatty stone chipped car.
No I can’t in all honesty. I hate it when you pull up to see someone or some mates and there’s always one smart ar$e who’ll go “Ooh bit rough around that bit isn’t it?!”.
Plus for my OCD I like a mint car.

...but I have just learnt that you can only do that if you then don’t use it.
I’m sure a full car PPF would have minimised any further paint niggles but it’s big money.

So I am going to get something to just use, hopefully for years and years, but I’ve said that since I was 17. Back then it was to my parents, now it’s to my wife.
“If I can just get into this one I’ll never want another one!” Grin

In hindsight I should have stopped at my 964T. Gorgeous looks, 380bhp, so quick and dynamic enough yet completely comfy for Euro tours, I loved it, the wife loved it.
I had it when I met my wife, I did Lemans in it with the lads etc etc.

... but unfortunately for yours truly, that train has sailed.

- bit of Austin Powers for you there. Very Happy



So we’ll see what happens. No rush but I’m about to do one of the best trips of my life in the summer, so I’d really like a car that will begin its story with me, on that trip and that will stay with me after, so it has to be what I really want, but is there such a car in budget. Question


Raggy, regarding the GT3 being no quicker a C2 is 290-300hp. Mk1 GT3 is 360 bit generally accepted as a touch less, approximately 355.

Mk2 GT3 rated at 381 but generally up a touch according to the likes of EVO etc back in the day.
You notice 90hp especially when it’s “that” engine screaming behind you.

I love Cayman RS for their ability but they’re a bit ugly from the back.
GT4, god yes. Cayman R, hmm, it just doesn’t hit the spot.

Hence if its 987 which it has to be as 981 is out of budget, then it has to be a Spyder.

Thanks for your thoughts guys. It’s good for the soul searching and weighing up of everything.
I think I may have had a rush of blood to the head. Grin

Long hours on night shifts has you acting impulsively sometimes.
My old nightshift boss (I have his role now) used to always flip on a Wednesday and lose his rag. We used to take the pi$$ and say he was having a mid-week melt down. Very Happy

Well I think I may have had one of those and acted in haste with the C2 sale.
Uh-oh. Dont know Wink
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what you mean.For me the thrill is in the chase and boredom soon sets in with cars and I just feel the need for another car plus I think I’m wired a bit tight too Mr. Green
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Marky, I was only pulling your chain a bit. I was just trying to make the point that moving from a mint GT3-esque 996 into a gravel-rashed 996 GT3 (which needs much more money to get into and then more money to put to the standard you like) will have people searching around for Marky's lost marbles!

I get that 'last 5%' bit though....

Its a petrolheads curse though isn't it - always another car to lust after just around the corner.

I didn't realise the Mk2 GT3 had so much power actually, thought they were all in/around the mid 300's. Plus the power will be in that 7-8krpm range I imagine..

Never been a fan of the 87 Spyder personally, love the 981 Spyder. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks though, the only thing that matters is whether you like it.

Good luck with the search!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marky911 wrote:
Haha, cheers for the face-palm Raggy.

Good point lads and a fair one too.

When I bought the C2 I had my doubts as to whether I’d be satisfied coming from a GT3, albeit a few years later, but I was hellbent on getting back into a 911.
At the start I wasn’t but figured it was the plain looks, so I began “GT3’ing” it. That’s the most work I’ve done to any car in my 24 years of driving.

What I ended up with was a cracking car but after all that it still lacked the last 5% of the experience I wanted, which I’ve said before is the “zingy, pull on the heartstrings” bit.

I was going to bear with it, make some memories and use it loads so it became like a favourite old pair of jeans but then I had the realisation of “This is the best this car will ever be, it will only get tattier again from this point”.

So essentially I’d backed myself into a corner by making it so clean. Rolling Eyes

That was the nail in the coffin I think coupled with a wandering eye.

So really good questions as to whether I can live with a tatty stone chipped car.
No I can’t in all honesty. I hate it when you pull up to see someone or some mates and there’s always one smart ar$e who’ll go “Ooh bit rough around that bit isn’t it?!”.
Plus for my OCD I like a mint car.

...but I have just learnt that you can only do that if you then don’t use it.
I’m sure a full car PPF would have minimised any further paint niggles but it’s big money.

So I am going to get something to just use, hopefully for years and years, but I’ve said that since I was 17. Back then it was to my parents, now it’s to my wife.
“If I can just get into this one I’ll never want another one!” Grin

In hindsight I should have stopped at my 964T. Gorgeous looks, 380bhp, so quick and dynamic enough yet completely comfy for Euro tours, I loved it, the wife loved it.
I had it when I met my wife, I did Lemans in it with the lads etc etc.

... but unfortunately for yours truly, that train has sailed.

- bit of Austin Powers for you there. Very Happy



So we’ll see what happens. No rush but I’m about to do one of the best trips of my life in the summer, so I’d really like a car that will begin its story with me, on that trip and that will stay with me after, so it has to be what I really want, but is there such a car in budget. Question


Raggy, regarding the GT3 being no quicker a C2 is 290-300hp. Mk1 GT3 is 360 bit generally accepted as a touch less, approximately 355.

Mk2 GT3 rated at 381 but generally up a touch according to the likes of EVO etc back in the day.
You notice 90hp especially when it’s “that” engine screaming behind you.

I love Cayman RS for their ability but they’re a bit ugly from the back.
GT4, god yes. Cayman R, hmm, it just doesn’t hit the spot.

Hence if its 987 which it has to be as 981 is out of budget, then it has to be a Spyder.

Thanks for your thoughts guys. It’s good for the soul searching and weighing up of everything.
I think I may have had a rush of blood to the head. Grin

Long hours on night shifts has you acting impulsively sometimes.
My old nightshift boss (I have his role now) used to always flip on a Wednesday and lose his rag. We used to take the pi$$ and say he was having a mid-week melt down. Very Happy

Well I think I may have had one of those and acted in haste with the C2 sale.
Uh-oh. Dont know Wink


https://youtu.be/JhnpBx6gfk0?t=26

Grin

It's true, the increase in hp over a standard C2 is "only" 55hp in a Mk1 GT3, but as we both know, it's the manner in which that additional 55hp is delivered Mark...

The Mezger lump sprints to the redline, whereas the C2 canters there by way of comparison.

Chuck a decent set of manifolds/cats and exhaust system, along with a map and a CS flywheel onto a MK1, and it'll sound waaaay better than any Mk2 and rev just as quickly to the raised redline as the later car....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3J8HeIfJwc

And my own (not as impressive) take on the superb roads of welsh Wales :

https://youtu.be/PeHWqBAt_rk?t=246

And the only way you'll make a Mk2 996 GT3 sound like this at idle is to disconnect a couple of coil packs ... :

https://youtu.be/PeHWqBAt_rk?t=316


Mr. Green

And for what it's worth Mark, I think you've made the right decision in not pursuing the Silver '3 at the TSR. There you are, I've said it Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that matey. Thumb
I’ve been receiving lots of face-palms this week. Mainly from the wife. Grin

The pint you made was completely valid. I’m being blinded by the new car buzz as Ady mentions. That’s the phase where I’m at my most dangerous. Grin

I’m willing to overlook a lot for the next greatest car, but once I’ve got it I embark on sorting it all out.

987 isn’t a patch on 981 looks wise. 981 is a real looker. I was discussing this with my mate on Friday night. He’s had both Spyders.

Ady, this is it, I’ve been very sensible for 5 years due to my house. Now I’m free as it’s finished so I’m back to my old self. Very Happy

I know one thing. Whatever I buy I’ll wish I’d bought the other one 6 months later. Wink
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Henry I was replying to Raggy while you posted there.

Grin
Austin powers. I thought that’s was great back in the day.


Yes I think the S-car Rooms one is off the table now. I would still have it but not when the last guy paid £49,995 back when the market was stronger.

With a £50k ish budget though it’s the only way I’ll get back into one.
It’s straight, original panels but obviously not mint.

Obviously I’d love a mk1 but that’s not gonna happen. nooo

That does sound good though. Very Happy

Thanks for the help throughout this, as ever and the offer to view it. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:12 pm    Post subject: Air cooled Reply with quote

Marky I think you should wait on a nice 964/993 comes along that you can make your own. I think there will be cars come along that are a better buy than the RPR626 one that you thought of! £50k should go a long way!
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW I suspect the Supercar room may well regret not meeting you halfway.
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