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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given you paid for a car with a "rebuilt engine" shouldn't you be arguing for a proper - i.e. Hartech - rebuild, as getting a 2nd hand one it could have problems going forward?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there would also be some coolant pipes and the engine wiring loom also and possibly the throttle system. As long as it was a totally bare engine all your current bits would turn it into a manual engine.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes that would work, you will need some specific parts from your old 3.6 unit though as well if the replacement you've seen is from a manual car (flywheel for the tip box, and some ancillaries if they are not included etc).

Have you had an offer from the dealer that they will fund the cost of a "used" engine?

If so then great, just make sure the replacement unit is properly inspected for bore score and ims bearing play (remove dust shields etc).
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
This is still unresolved due to my time and the dealer stalling. He asked if I was ok with an engineer inspection Thumb which was done on 15/02. A few days later I had an 'offer' from the re-builders that if I paid half of the cost of a 2nd hand engine the dealer would pay the other half and they would fit it for 'free' and give it a service, saying that they had been implicated in the report. I politely declined this offer until I received a copy of the report. After chasing the dealer's solicitor and dealer to no avail I have had the engine re-inspected by the same company last week. The re-builders, however, made it as difficult as possible for the inspection to take place as the engine was stored in a dingy shed and not brought out for the engineer. The report states that the failure is likely to be due to the gudgeon pin clip as people said.
Next step is court but even with a win getting the money out of them could be a serious problem!!! Mad
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once solicitors are involved, the bills to fix the issue can shoot up. I wish you luck on this journey that you are embarking upon.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Scarlet boarder,

So it's almost six months you have been without your car. Not your fault but the builder / dealer want to roll you over again?

It is very hard to be patient and persistant with your legal advisors but that has to be your way forward. Your legal costs should also be reimbursed but if the dealer had any integrity, he would be doing his level best to keep you happy.

Let the solicitor do the worrying, that's what they are paid for. I have had some horrible legal disputes to deal with and a good solicitor can get this resolved amicably if the other side are prepared to be reasonable.

Reasonableness is key in any legal dispute. Right is on your side, it is more than reasonable for you to escalate the matter with full gusto. You are only trying to get what is rightfully yours. A car that is in the same condition that you were expecting pre-failure.

Keep your dignity and integrity intact but push your solicitor to approach the dealer with no hold barred!

Having lots of moral support from this site is reassurring but the solicitor needs now to earn his keep.

I hope you can see some real progress soon.

Cheers, Keith.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scarletboarder wrote:
Hi
This is still unresolved due to my time and the dealer stalling. He asked if I was ok with an engineer inspection Thumb which was done on 15/02. A few days later I had an 'offer' from the re-builders that if I paid half of the cost of a 2nd hand engine the dealer would pay the other half and they would fit it for 'free' and give it a service, saying that they had been implicated in the report. I politely declined this offer until I received a copy of the report. After chasing the dealer's solicitor and dealer to no avail I have had the engine re-inspected by the same company last week. The re-builders, however, made it as difficult as possible for the inspection to take place as the engine was stored in a dingy shed and not brought out for the engineer. The report states that the failure is likely to be due to the gudgeon pin clip as people said.
Next step is court but even with a win getting the money out of them could be a serious problem!!! Mad


What a disgusting shame of events. This is precisely why i didn't even consider looking at anything rebuilt by anybody other than hartech or any cars from independant dealers as i just figure they don't actually know the risk of the car they are selling and will baulk at anything that goes wrong.

Sounds like the rebuilders are fully responsible for the damage so should be fixing this, they deserve a name and shame for it dragging on so long and trying to shrug off liability - is it legal to name and shame? They'vehad more than enough time to rectify.... especially if it's one of the so called well respected specialists.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]

What a disgusting shame of events. This is precisely why i didn't even consider looking at anything rebuilt by anybody other than hartech or any cars from independant dealers as i just figure they don't actually know the risk of the car they are selling and will baulk at anything that goes wrong.

Sounds like the rebuilders are fully responsible for the damage so should be fixing this, they deserve a name and shame for it dragging on so long and trying to shrug off liability - is it legal to name and shame? They'vehad more than enough time to rectify.... especially if it's one of the so called well respected specialists.[/quote]

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unbelievably I have only had my money back on March 15th. 2 solicitors, both useless, 3 court hearings and all the dragging out that involves. It's been a big learning curve regarding the law and how slow and at times the justice system can be. Ended up writing my own letters and preparing my own case. Dealer settled the day before the final hearing. I had agreed a settlement 7 months ago as I was giving up on getting anything but they had not paid it and the court did not help speed matters along.
Thanks for all the advice, comments etc.

I am now the owner of a 997 Carrera S with excellent history.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scarletboarder wrote:
Unbelievably I have only had my money back on March 15th. 2 solicitors, both useless, 3 court hearings and all the dragging out that involves. It's been a big learning curve regarding the law and how slow and at times the justice system can be. Ended up writing my own letters and preparing my own case. Dealer settled the day before the final hearing. I had agreed a settlement 7 months ago as I was giving up on getting anything but they had not paid it and the court did not help speed matters along.
Thanks for all the advice, comments etc.

I am now the owner of a 997 Carrera S with excellent history.


Amazing it has taken this long. Hope the 997 proves reliable. As a small footnote, I had a 996 before the Boxster, but partly due to worrying about IMS and scoring issues, I p/ex'ed back to Portiacraft (for the money I'd bought it for) to get the Gen2 Boxster. When I saw the 911 advertised, it said "full Hartech rebuild". I phoned Harry up to ask him about it and he said "We'd forgotten it'd had one, but the original owner saw it advertised and reminded me" So I had been in a 1-owner, Hartech rebuilt 996 for £13k without knowing it!
I'm now in an Audi S5 cabriolet, not quite as good a drive as the Boxster, but as fast and much more practical.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scarletboarder wrote:
Unbelievably I have only had my money back on March 15th. 2 solicitors, both useless, 3 court hearings and all the dragging out that involves. It's been a big learning curve regarding the law and how slow and at times the justice system can be. Ended up writing my own letters and preparing my own case. Dealer settled the day before the final hearing. I had agreed a settlement 7 months ago as I was giving up on getting anything but they had not paid it and the court did not help speed matters along.
Thanks for all the advice, comments etc.

I am now the owner of a 997 Carrera S with excellent history.


Once you are d9own the litigation path, it can soak up costs and time. At least you got a settlement that you are happy with. Now then, I do hope you bouight a gen 2 (MY2009) 997 with the DFI engine.....
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^ Ditto on the gen2.


Well done on seeing it through. That must have been very stressful. Thumb

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn’t stretch to a Gen 2. Bought one with impeccable history and Strasse rebuild done 20k ago. Car is totally mint.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crikey, what a journey, glad you got it sorted !!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fastlowe wrote:
Crikey, what a journey, glad you got it sorted !!


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