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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:39 am    Post subject: 03 targa roof Reply with quote

When I hit the button to open the roof I just get a clicking sound at the back near the motors. What could be the issue?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few things will stop the roof from working at all ..

1/ The car thinks the rear hatch is open , dont normally get a clicking noise but its possible .

Try opening and closeing the rear hatch.

2/ One of the 2 motors has stopped working .. there is no way one motor will move the roof as the other will jam it if not working .

Ive never seen a dead motor in all my time working on these though .

3/ The cables have jammed or the roof mechanism has .. thats a garage job and not cheap im afraid.

4/ Problem with the control unit .. again ive never come across it before but its just about possible .

My money is on 1 or 3 .
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For any mechanics doing this job ..

If you are replaceing the rear blinds then DONT just fit them out of the packet ..

Due to the way Porsche have stored these and the fact they are 5 years old then there is a certain fix to make sure they dont jump out when in operation .

If they do it damages the plastic guide and you WILL need to buy another one ...

This is mainly for the o/s blind but usefull for the n/s as well .

Rear blinds can only be replaced with the roof out .

PM me for details on how to get around this fault .
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick question DeMort and I thought it may add something to this Targa thread I have my roof rails off to aid wrapping the car and when I popped them off the middle came up easily but the outer parts were a little harder. I applied a little more force and it came up but broke the clips at either end, I did try sliding them before I used more force but they still didn't pop up.

Q, are these metal clips available separately, I know the middle plastic ones are. The metal outer ones did seem to break too easily and I was being reasonably careful.

Some pics to help explain.






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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are going to be part of that strip im afraid .. you have to slide the covers backwards to get them out ... to be fair it is tricky .. you have to try and line up a hole you cant see and these cars aint new anymore .. things jam / stick and cant be removed without damage ... try explaining it to a customer Wink

You can get around it though .. the center clips .. they often come unstuck when i remove these trims .. i use silicone to refit them .. so do the same on these clips then a silicone lump at each end and stick it down with masking tape untill its cured ... the front section should go just under the windscreen seal .

Or replace both strips which is expensive and not really needed .

997 is different .. they are pressed in place .
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers, I did price up new strips but obviously the were quite expensive and thought there may be another way around it. I did think of buying 4 more centre clips and putting then either end close to the original metal clips and hope that does the trick. Silicone does seem a cheaper option though, even those centre clips are £11 each. Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trust me .. use silicone on the old center clips and a big lump each end .. it WILL work .. new covers are not required .

Also anything to this post helps people in the future so im glad of any input .. im not going to be here forever to answer questions on this .. so the more info the better Thumb

Edit ..

just to say .. you need the roof open and the hatch open to mask the strip down .. drop the lock on the tailgate hatch .. you can open the roof then .. glass will be exposed under the tailgate hatch but it wont damage anything .
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:09 pm    Post subject: Parts help please Reply with quote

Hi guys can anyone let me know the part numbers for the cables for the targa roof? I’ve done a partial strip down and the left cable is broken up. Thanks
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part number here is i think correct .. its for the guide tubes with the cables ..

https://www.deroure.com/partinfo.asp?MAK=3&MDL=25&TBL=2668&SMA=0&SMO=0&ST=&SC=0&PBID=85180

Personally i would confirm via an OPC .. ask for the glass roof cables and the part number .

Bear in mind you can not replace these with the roof in situ ... see images on the first page of this thread of how to change them ...

Image ... P2260058.jpg .

You can no longer buy just the cables on their own , porsche have discontinued this part .
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeMort thanks for your reply, I found a place that still sells the cables, have them on order now and will carry out the repairs next week. Been a few years since I last had one of these roofs apart. Wish me luck
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young man i have to say if you have removed one of these roofs before and are doing it again you are part of a very small number of people in this country that have done this .. i kid you not !

For me its one of my specialist areas . every mechanic has areas he is better at than others .. i've had the pleasure of doing 29 996/997 roof refurbs so far in 15 years on Porsche so if you have any questions then please feel free to ask ..

My email addy here if needed ..

De.Mort@virginmedia.com

far easier to send pictures etc if needed .

I only check it in the evenings though so no instant reply .

Be aware .. a lot of places tend to sell the blind cables as being the roof cables .. they wont work obviously .
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Small update with some pictures . .. i like them so why not share i figured .

Found an old friend when working on this one .. not fitted one of these in about 14 years now , very much doubt they are active these days .

my record is 3 fitted to the same vehicle .. a Cayenne as well !

The batterys on these will tend to be well dead by now and the unit can try and charge them with ignition off which its not supposed to ..

A cause of flat batterys if the car is unused for a bit shall we say .

Couple of pictures of a previous repair and a pry bar was used to remove the frame .. er .. it's not needed ..

Feel free to email me or post for how to do it without damaging the car ... i dont charge Very Happy

De.Mort@virginmedia.com

Open the picts in a new image for a bigger picture ... chrome .
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A young man asked me about noises on these and fixes via email .. i figured i might as well post it here as well just in case its of any use ..

996 AND 997 ..


As i say on the forums .. this may well turn into one of my longer posts so read it several times ..

Damp smell .. gutters are obviously on the inside , fabric curtains cant get wet as they are above the water channel .. dirt though will collect in the channels .. poor drainage due to partially blocked rear drains will also stay damp .

Pull the pu in the corner as i mentioned .. make sure its perfectly clear then with the roof open pour water into the channel to wash out the years of dirt in there .

keep an eye on the rear secretion of the drains though .. if over flowing then there is some sort of blockage ... rear panel off to keep an eye on this .

Noises ..

rear hatch area .. gunmmi .. use on the rear hatch seal all the way around .. just spray it on and leave it , again on the rubber stops.. also look at the tailgate hinges , a plastic stop there .. lubricate it , tailgate hinges and normal grease on the pivots ( spray grease ) .

rear section of the Glass roof .. gummi it ... mainly the centre bar with the rubber trim .. you cant actually get at the glass roof seal and it should be a felt based seal so no lube should be needed .

Crytox is a Porsche rubber replenisher available from any OPC .. so by lube i mean this .. about £13 per bottle and a God send for these cars .. smear a small amount on your finger and rub it into any surface .. i use this over Gummi most of the time .. it lasts longer .

Open the roof .. look under the wind deflector .. x3 plastic strips .. lubricate these , lube the x2 plastic / rubber stops each side , lube the roof parts each side that hit the wind deflector ... one or both of these can be missing .. its a plastic triangle .. just lube what's there .

Both front windows .. Rain X on the glass where it touches the door seal .. leave to dry on the window .. do the same on the entire door seals .

Roof open and gummi the centre rubber between glass and hatch .

rattles / creaks from the front .. the panel the sun blinds are fitted to is located in place by x4 metal tabs with felt tape over them .. this can wear .. bit of a mission but remove that panel and retape them .

the front to rear panel each side can have the felt tape get displaced so its leather on leather .. another place but like the above .. its a mission to remove ... i would need to explain in detail if needed for both these jobs .

Rattles you have described each side in the far corners is going to be the linkage has worn .. brass spacer in a metal plate with [plastic runners in it .. limited what you can do here as its wear and tear .. adjusting the cables is one thing i would do but that's not for the faint hearted .. get it wrong and it can jam .. my suggestion and what i have done in the past ..

Axle grease with a small paint brush .. fabric down so you can get at it then paste the grease on the plastic sections of this plate .. you'll need plenty to act as a cushion but not to much that it can contaminate other areas .

To check the front glass drain tubes .. sit in the back with a torch , gently pull back the fabric where both parts join .. you will see the tube and if there is a problem with it .. do for both sides .

Drains by the battery .. use a long screwdriver and push through the grommets so they drop out onto the fuel tank .. they are there to stop mice ingress and they are useless at that .. no grommets and you have an inch hole that will never block .. bear in mind there are x2 each side of the battery .

noises come and go with temperature .. there is little you can do about that but work on the noises at operating temp .. the car will be this hot most of the time .
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