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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:42 am    Post subject: 991 GT3 Facelift (2017) Reply with quote

what do you guys think of the new GT3 coming in 2017?

It will be the last of the naturally aspirated engine.

Also, it looks like it may come with a manual Gearbox: I wonder what will happen to the 911R unrealistic current values (£500k +)

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-geneva-motor-show/2017-porsche-911-gt3-facelift-spotted-undisguised
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it will be great news for 2 pedal fans, previously excluded from GT cars, who are looking to buy a decent pre-owned car. Very Happy

IF UK GT3 fanatics are so desperate to have a manual car I'm hoping that there will be a glut of 2-3 year old 991.1 PDK cars knocking around in the next couple of years. Dance Twist
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too T8 Thumb

I fancy a daily auto.. Very Happy

In all seriousness, with the engine issues (not great provenance?!) and the auto box where do we see these settling..?

(ps. never selling my current gt3)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+2

A nice auto GT3 would be a perfect replacement for the Smart Grin
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an excellent idea, no speed bumps on my way to work Thumb

That will teasch her for making me sell my 993 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well we know what it will look like, add the latest 911 Cup race car front bumper

it will be manual, so the only question is what they are doing about the engine

A manual will rightly shake up the market


but surely the easiest facelift EVER ! just add a manual, job done!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you've missed the point with the manual, just because there is an option it doesn't mean everyone will spec it.

As a 991.1GT3 owner and previous 996GT3 owner I don't miss the manual at all, just another way of driving.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reckon they'll have fixed the engine yet?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vast majority will order pdk. So its manual...its still huge and needs rws to turn properly 😄
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess is that with the exchange rate being so poor, the next incoming price
increase (2017) is going to put this car in the 115k-120k bracket for a stock
car.
A car loaded with the usual toys (lift, ceramics, PCM, phone module, cruise)...
that's going to be nipping close to 130k. Now that's serious money for a
cooking GT3.

...I wonder if the manual option will get a price premium ? Question
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good question. I wonder how they'd justify that though Question

I'd be interested to know if de-winging and LWFW would also be options.... or would they think that's treading on the R's toes too much

(Based on the much heard rumour that you can only buy a ducktail off Porsche for your 997 if you can prove you own a Sport Classic)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sod the looks. lets hope they get the engine right this time.

so when you spend 120k on the car it does not need 2 engine re builds in the first 2 years of ownership. very poor from Porsche and destroying the GT3 brand with crap engines and PDK.

back to top engines, lack of refinement and manual boxes please Stuttgart!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick w wrote:
My guess is that with the exchange rate being so poor, the next incoming price
increase (2017) is going to put this car in the 115k-120k bracket for a stock
car.
A car loaded with the usual toys (lift, ceramics, PCM, phone module, cruise)...
that's going to be nipping close to 130k. Now that's serious money for a
cooking GT3.

...I wonder if the manual option will get a price premium ? Question


Yes, its going to be an expensive car i think. No cost option on the man i reckon.

I think the engine thing is sorted now, its not unknown for Mezger's to go pop too..plus the new lump (a modded version of it) is in the cup car next year.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... since when is LWFW anything to do with looks! (... and it's a Porsche 911, it has lots to do with looks Grin)

I'd love to know the final % of what proportion will end up being spec'd pdk v man
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roro wrote:
I'd love to know the final % of what proportion will end up being spec'd pdk v man


My guess to start the ball rolling ......

80% PDK and 20% Manual

Yes, no or maybe. Question
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NLW73 wrote:
sod the looks. lets hope they get the engine right this time.

so when you spend 120k on the car it does not need 2 engine re builds in the first 2 years of ownership. very poor from Porsche and destroying the GT3 brand with crap engines and PDK.

back to top engines, lack of refinement and manual boxes please Stuttgart!


Mines 2 years old and only on 1 engine replacement.

There are undoubtedly some problems but its blown out of all proportion on the interweb. Just like the 996 problems, its so annoying having to negotiate those broken down 911's on each and every trip you do.

I'd agree I think about 80% PDK and I also expect the price to go up from the 991.1 based on GBP rates now and VW wanting to recoup as much money as possible.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all


I think the basic price will be around 110-115. A decent spec car with ceramics will be close to 135-140. They will for sure go for a premium and I think the current 991.1 GT3 will not drop by much. They won't go for less than 100 that's for sure.

This is my prediction.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roro wrote:
+2

A nice auto GT3 would be a perfect replacement for the Smart Grin


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the GT3. I'm thinking of enquiring about one with my OPC. Any chance of getting a slot? I've bought 2 cars from them within the last year. Or is this small fry in GT world?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norfolk & Idea wrote:
Love the GT3. I'm thinking of enquiring about one with my OPC. Any chance of getting a slot? I've bought 2 cars from them within the last year. Or is this small fry in GT world?


That ship sailed well over a year ago Smile
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