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tim993
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cheap as chips Thumb


24,999 tops
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ras62 wrote:
So it's had the engine rebuilt, its not that expensive. Likewise new suspension, not a huge expense. Certainly nowhere near £20k never mind double.


There is a zillion ways to do a car up, you can certainly replace the dampers for less than 1k if you do it yourself however if you want to upgrade to something like PSS10 and refresh bushes (Ball joints, spring plate, stabilser & wishbone), top mount rubber, ARB .... and a proper geometry set up by a known specialist with some powder coating on top then I suspect you'd be looking at a bill in the range of 4-5k.

Same with engine, you can do a topend reseal for less than 4K @ mate rates but you could also spend 20k at a known specialist - Tinware, replating, HE's, mapping, clutch, oil cooling system as well as the usual wear & tear engine parts add up very quickly.

Now I don't know exactly what was done on this car or if bills add up to 40k but devil is in the detail and if this car has been done close to that level of detail then its certainly good value even at 70k.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that you can easily rack up those numbers if you cant d.i.y.

if you think about it, that car new today would be 75k plus, you have taken an old car and renewed it, if it cost 45k plus 40k you are not far off.

if its been done by decent mechanics, you have a wonderful car for 10years, and when you move it on you get a good bit back.

too many cars claim to have had work at big money, its who has done the work that counts.


if I had 70k doing nothing, and the work was top notch, I wouldn't even haggle, there would be nothing to pull the owner up on.



Autofarm will build you a 'new' Porsche from scratch, its called the autofarm 911 and costs 100k approx.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The above new build figures can be said for most cars. I have a low mileage e34 535i Sport Manual that is a fantastic family cruiser in the summer months. To build or restore one to the level of my car would cost £15k+, however the car is still only worth £8k'ish.

The market will no doubt decide what this 964 is worth and my guess it is nowhere near £70k. Modifications and labour charges cannot be recouped come sale time.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cableguy wrote:
The market will no doubt decide what this 964 is worth and my guess it is nowhere near £70k. Modifications and labour charges cannot be recouped come sale time.

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What do you recon this car would have been worth without all the sorting?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cableguy wrote:
The market will no doubt decide what this 964 is worth and my guess it is nowhere near £70k. Modifications and labour charges cannot be recouped come sale time.

C.


What do you recon this car would have been worth without all the sorting?


I'd think £40-45k looking at the current 964 market. Miles are low but the colour combo will not appeal to everyone.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like a decent C2 sub 100k miles for £40k as long as it doesn't need an engine rebuild or respray, where can I get one?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cableguy wrote:
The above new build figures can be said for most cars. I have a low mileage e34 535i Sport Manual that is a fantastic family cruiser in the summer months. To build or restore one to the level of my car would cost £15k+, however the car is still only worth £8k'ish.

The market will no doubt decide what this 964 is worth and my guess it is nowhere near £70k. Modifications and labour charges cannot be recouped come sale time.

C.



you answered your own question, an aircooled Porsche is a riser and is worth throwing the money at. like I said, you will get a fair chunk of it back in 10 years of great motoring, a lot of cars would be scrapped in 10 yrs time. The thing that makes it worth it in my book, is if a car has been done properly with proof. Loads claim it, most are an exaggeration.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The modifications will be 10 years old in ten years and providing the car has been used regularly then they may be ready for replacement/refreshing again.

Most 90's German performance metal will increase in value as the amount of actual used cars will become fewer. Just look at how many manual 964's for example were available just 5 years ago compared with today.

My point is current value. There are not many buyers looking to spend the £30k premium for this car, modifications or not. It's routine maintenance IMO and only worth a small premium.

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ok, I love all the aircooled range, especially coupe's, compared to modern cars there is no looks comparison I am afraid. but that's an old debate Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amen to that. These older hand built cars with their quirks and analogue driving experience will unfortunately be a rare find in modern times. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a properly done car in a very desirable colour combination. The flat (non-metallic) dark blue is stunning, and the red interior with sports seats and factory special order black dash and steering wheel (special wishes department) complement it. Not surprised it sold so quickly.

 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's where (£) great cars are at.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mondrian wrote:
That's where (£) great cars are at.


You only need one buyer to sell a car.

However, one sale doesn't make sense market....despite what is a handful or dealers and current owners would have you believe [as they have a vested interest].
 
  
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