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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nigel99 wrote:
Ok, well I just had some clarification from TechArt who offer a 20mm spring set for 997 and 997S.

If the springs are fitted to a car without PASM then the drop will be 20mm but if the car has PASM (standard with S models?) then the drop will only be 15mm.

What I don't know is if there will always be a difference of 5mm between the S and non S cars. E.g. Will a 15mm spacer only drop by 10mm on a car with PASM.


Aha so the fact the S is 10mm lower than the non S is due to the S having PASM as standard and some non S cars would be lower but only if speced with PASM . So does that mean the H&R 30mm ones only drop 25mm with PASM or the Eibach which drop 25mm with PASM would that be 20mm
there must be those that have done this with H&R or Eibach on the forum. It will be interesting to see what others say.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update.

Having purchased a set of H&R 15mm lowering springs (for a good price on Fleabay) it turns out that the 15mm springs are only for cars that have the "Sports Suspension" factory option.

Therefore the only H&R springs available for 997.2 S (with PASM) is the 30mm spring, which will lower by the full 30mm.

I think that the ride may be to harsh with 30mm so the 20mm techArt springs is probably the way to go (although will only lower by 15mm on a car with PASM). The TechArt springs are also more expensive than H&R.

The fitting looks like a bit or a mare too so I have looked into prices for getting these fitted with the current one being £680 (including alignment which is needed after fitting).

This mod is looking like over a grand to complete so back to the drawing board now while I weigh up the options.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duplicate post.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nigel99 wrote:
Update.

Having purchased a set of H&R 15mm lowering springs (for a good price on Fleabay) it turns out that the 15mm springs are only for cars that have the "Sports Suspension" factory option.

Therefore the only H&R springs available for 997.2 S (with PASM) is the 30mm spring, which will lower by the full 30mm.

I think that the ride may be to harsh with 30mm so the 20mm techArt springs is probably the way to go (although will only lower by 15mm on a car with PASM). The TechArt springs are also more expensive than H&R.

The fitting looks like a bit or a mare too so I have looked into prices for getting these fitted with the current one being £680 (including alignment which is needed after fitting).

This mod is looking like over a grand to complete so back to the drawing board now while I weigh up the options.


Thread revival! So did you do this after all?

So just to summarise H&R might be to low?

Techart is just about right however slightly more difficult to source compared too....

Eibachs which are almost the same, in terms of drop, as the techarts except for a slightly different spring rate (assumed)
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Judging from pictures. The eibachs still sit a bit too high on the rears.

Where as the Techarts sit perfect both front and rear.

My thinking is, the Techarts as they sit higher than the H&Rs will allow for better damper travel and therefore bettert ride quality. Also you will be able to load up the car better in corners with the weight transfer which in turn would improve handling as well as looks.

The second option right now is Ohlins, but as this is my first 911 I would like to see what PASM is all about.

Any recommendations on where to buy techarts?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lowered mine with techart springs 20mm Thumb

To get a idea what it does to your car see picture...

 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a photo of my old 4s on Eibach Pro's with 7mm / 15mm spacers, which dropped the car by 15mm ish all round. The spaces were perfect for what i was looking for but the for me the rear was still a little to high so this time i will opt for other springs to get the back lower
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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RXP. wrote:
Judging from pictures. The eibachs still sit a bit too high on the rears.

Where as the Techarts sit perfect both front and rear.

My thinking is, the Techarts as they sit higher than the H&Rs will allow for better damper travel and therefore bettert ride quality. Also you will be able to load up the car better in corners with the weight transfer which in turn would improve handling as well as looks.

The second option right now is Ohlins, but as this is my first 911 I would like to see what PASM is all about.

Any recommendations on where to buy techarts?


There are now several tech art distributors in the U.K. Google is your friend Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
RXP. wrote:
Judging from pictures. The eibachs still sit a bit too high on the rears.

Where as the Techarts sit perfect both front and rear.

My thinking is, the Techarts as they sit higher than the H&Rs will allow for better damper travel and therefore bettert ride quality. Also you will be able to load up the car better in corners with the weight transfer which in turn would improve handling as well as looks.

The second option right now is Ohlins, but as this is my first 911 I would like to see what PASM is all about.

Any recommendations on where to buy techarts?



There are now several tech art distributors in the U.K. Google is your friend Thumb


Hey Phil. Design911 and eBay turned up fruitless as did Porsche shop.

The hunt continues....
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

see my group buy post
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wing wrote:
I lowered mine with techart springs 20mm Thumb

To get a idea what it does to your car see picture...



Lovely looking cab.

Which rear bumper is this?
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi RXP, tis is from CMC , the full bodykit is.... thumbsup
 
  
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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RXP. wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
RXP. wrote:
Judging from pictures. The eibachs still sit a bit too high on the rears.

Where as the Techarts sit perfect both front and rear.

My thinking is, the Techarts as they sit higher than the H&Rs will allow for better damper travel and therefore bettert ride quality. Also you will be able to load up the car better in corners with the weight transfer which in turn would improve handling as well as looks.

The second option right now is Ohlins, but as this is my first 911 I would like to see what PASM is all about.

Any recommendations on where to buy techarts?





There are now several tech art distributors in the U.K. Google is your friend Thumb


Hey Phil. Design911 and eBay turned up fruitless as did Porsche shop.

The hunt continues....


Tech9 have been a techart distributor for ages and Parr motorsport have recently acquired a distributorship hope that helps mate . Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you are following this thread and you would like a set of Techart springs have a look at the group buy thread and Tech9 are currently offering a set for £399 - 12% if we can get 3+ takers
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,

Just about to buy the Techart springs courtesy of Finn and the group buy he has arranged.

I have a 997.2 C2S - what would you recommend for spacers? - 7mm front and 15mm rear?. Anyone got a linky?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roocat wrote:
Hi all,

Just about to buy the Techart springs courtesy of Finn and the group buy he has arranged.

I have a 997.2 C2S - what would you recommend for spacers? - 7mm front and 15mm rear?. Anyone got a linky?

cheers


I've got 997.2 with H&R springs and think 15mm all round is best.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7mm on the front 12mm on the rear "less is more" a mate has 15 on the back too much for me, too wide and they look crap IMO Judge
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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roocat, so much depends on what you want personally and things like what tyres your running, as tyres like MPSS have a very small rim protector which would allow you to go wider and keep the ethsetics whereas MPS2 have a much bigger rim protector. It also depends on the wheels you have as even Porsche alloys differ in width. So to answer your question we need a bit more info mate.

re buying spacers Porscheshop sell nice ones and have them with spiggots down to 3mm which is very hard to find elsewhere , as most sell under 7mm as just shims even though they call them hubcentric.

I have also used TPI for wider spacers that are hubcentric.

Remember some are worried they will get gravel rash so opt for a narrower spacer others dont care and want the widest possible that wont rub the arch, other will even go as far as rolling the arch to get wider spacers.

Having said all that waffle Grin Grin It seems the genrally accepted optimum is 7mm front and 15mm rear on a C2S.

Good luck with the lowering you will I am sure be happy with the techarts. Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

antonio wrote:
Has anyone heard of or used AMD Tuning in Thurrock, they are doing pretty good deals on lowering springs.
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I used amd to fit my sibach springs. Then alignments All good and at a good price. Definitely can’t complain at there service
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some used h&r springs for sale if anyone is interested? Took them off my turbo, they've covered about 1500 miles. Was after £150- pm me if anyone is interested 20mm drop

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