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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Consider also Eibach Pro Kit springs. I have them on my 997 Carrera S. Lower than standard, but not exactly grass-cutter low. Reduced body-roll upon turn-in is a major improvement.


I am watching a listing on ebay for these, seller is from Germany and they are a bit cheaper.


I'm lowered and Spaced with what is now Eibachs. I had H&R's put on the car first and with the aerokit it was just to low and I scraped on every speed hump.

The Eibachs are just a nats c@ck ( just under 5mm higher) and it made a difference !!



That does look just the right height mate, some of these kits do drop the cars too much. think mine sits similar to yours, I am on techarts
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went H & R -25 on my S too low for my liking, I then changed to H & R -15mm with 12mm rear spacers and 7 mm front.
Looks exactly as I want it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know a decent garage in the Essex area to fit these?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Sorry Antonio, Brookspeed in Southampton did mine
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Phil, i am considering them but would like someone closer if poss.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
Boba fett wrote:
antonio wrote:
RichardKS wrote:
Consider also Eibach Pro Kit springs. I have them on my 997 Carrera S. Lower than standard, but not exactly grass-cutter low. Reduced body-roll upon turn-in is a major improvement.


I am watching a listing on ebay for these, seller is from Germany and they are a bit cheaper.


I'm lowered and Spaced with what is now Eibachs. I had H&R's put on the car first and with the aerokit it was just to low and I scraped on every speed hump.

The Eibachs are just a nats c@ck ( just under 5mm higher) and it made a difference !!



That does look just the right height mate, some of these kits do drop the cars too much. think mine sits similar to yours, I am on techarts


Getting the lowering and spacing right can be a right Faff

Your car looks great by the way, great stance and love the little details Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been looking into this too and have found the H&R Springs online for £250 which seems a good deal.

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=75334

Questions I have, for the C2S it shows that these will lower by 30mm. Is this too much considering that I have 15mm spacers added all round?

Also, is this difficult\risky to fit myself?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nigel99 wrote:
I have been looking into this too and have found the H&R Springs online for £250 which seems a good deal.

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=75334

Questions I have, for the C2S it shows that these will lower by 30mm. Is this too much considering that I have 15mm spacers added all round?

Also, is this difficult\risky to fit myself?


Nigel mate my feelings are that 30mm might take an "S" right up into the wheel arch as they start lower than a non "S". Its important as Boba says to get it just right, and it might be a false economy to do that , and it would pay to spend a bit more and get a set that drop 20mm as that will close the arch gap without making the car look slammed. Thumb Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boba fett wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
Boba fett wrote:
antonio wrote:
RichardKS wrote:
Consider also Eibach Pro Kit springs. I have them on my 997 Carrera S. Lower than standard, but not exactly grass-cutter low. Reduced body-roll upon turn-in is a major improvement.


I am watching a listing on ebay for these, seller is from Germany and they are a bit cheaper.


I'm lowered and Spaced with what is now Eibachs. I had H&R's put on the car first and with the aerokit it was just to low and I scraped on every speed hump.

The Eibachs are just a nats c@ck ( just under 5mm higher) and it made a difference !!



That does look just the right height mate, some of these kits do drop the cars too much. think mine sits similar to yours, I am on techarts


Getting the lowering and spacing right can be a right Faff

Your car looks great by the way, great stance and love the little details Thumb


Thanks Mate Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, not the best photo, but I had my car lowered last week by Parrs. After much deliberation I went for H&R -20mm springs in the end. Parrs also did their 'fast road' suspension set up, so the car now runs more camber than stock. Spacers have already been ordered! Cool

Interestingly the car has actually come down by more than 20mm. Measured at the middle of the arches, the front came down by 25mm and the rear by 22mm. Front spoiler lip now has 10cm / 4" ground clearance. It does 'kiss' the ground over severe road humps, but is otherwise fine. I wouldn't want to go any lower though!



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This photo shows the rear wheel 'tuck' -20mm springs, extra negative camber and no spacers. Have ordered 15mm spacers as recommended by H&R but it may need 20mm ones? I'll see what it looks like with 15mm spacers on first though, as I do like the wheels to be a little inside the body and not flush with the arches.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This photo shows the rear wheel 'tuck' -20mm springs, extra negative camber and no spacers. Have ordered 15mm spacers as recommended by H&R but it may need 20mm ones? I'll see what it looks like with 15mm spacers on first though, as I do like the wheels to be a little inside the body and not flush with the arches.




I have the H&R springs too - plus I have 20mm R and 15mm F spacers; this set-up makes the wheels flush with the arches (my preferred 'stance') so it may not be your cup-o'-tea! But I'll try and get a photo or two up later today so you can see what it looks like Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few less-than-mediocre pics taken on my phone-cam (photography is self-evidently NOT my bag!) - but they should give you an idea of 15mm F and 20mm R spacing on standard 997.1t wheels:
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone heard of or used AMD Tuning in Thurrock, they are doing pretty good deals on lowering springs.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyone know a decent garage in the Essex area to fit these?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeathStar wrote:
A few less-than-mediocre pics taken on my phone-cam (photography is self-evidently NOT my bag!) - but they should give you an idea of 15mm F and 20mm R spacing on standard 997.1t wheels:


nice deathstar, good height and stance Thumb Grin
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
nigel99 wrote:
I have been looking into this too and have found the H&R Springs online for £250 which seems a good deal.

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=75334

Questions I have, for the C2S it shows that these will lower by 30mm. Is this too much considering that I have 15mm spacers added all round?

Also, is this difficult\risky to fit myself?


Nigel mate my feelings are that 30mm might take an "S" right up into the wheel arch as they start lower than a non "S". Its important as Boba says to get it just right, and it might be a false economy to do that , and it would pay to spend a bit more and get a set that drop 20mm as that will close the arch gap without making the car look slammed. Thumb Grin


I have been looking into this and contacted a H&R supplier to enquire about the 20mm springs. Thus was there response:

"H&R only do 2 kits for the 997 Carrera S, this one which lowers the car by 15mm and the other that lowers it by 30mm (29188-1). The 15mm kit works best with the stock shock absorbers to provide a better handling car with a minimal reduction in ride comfort, whereas the 30mm drop will be better for lowered looks but would mean pushing the standard shocks to their limit. Depends what avenue you would like to go down with your car, if it is more for show looks or for fast road handling."

It appears that the 20mm from H&R are for the Turbo and 4S only. Would the 15mm make a noticeable difference to the look as thats primarily what I'm aiming for?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nigel99 wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
nigel99 wrote:
I have been looking into this too and have found the H&R Springs online for £250 which seems a good deal.

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=75334

Questions I have, for the C2S it shows that these will lower by 30mm. Is this too much considering that I have 15mm spacers added all round?

Also, is this difficult\risky to fit myself?


Nigel mate my feelings are that 30mm might take an "S" right up into the wheel arch as they start lower than a non "S". Its important as Boba says to get it just right, and it might be a false economy to do that , and it would pay to spend a bit more and get a set that drop 20mm as that will close the arch gap without making the car look slammed. Thumb Grin


I have been looking into this and contacted a H&R supplier to enquire about the 20mm springs. Thus was there response:

"H&R only do 2 kits for the 997 Carrera S, this one which lowers the car by 15mm and the other that lowers it by 30mm (29188-1). The 15mm kit works best with the stock shock absorbers to provide a better handling car with a minimal reduction in ride comfort, whereas the 30mm drop will be better for lowered looks but would mean pushing the standard shocks to their limit. Depends what avenue you would like to go down with your car, if it is more for show looks or for fast road handling."

It appears that the 20mm from H&R are for the Turbo and 4S only. Would the 15mm make a noticeable difference to the look as thats primarily what I'm aiming for?


Hi Nigel, Aha now that explains a few things as when I lowered mine, H&R were not 20mm drop and I was puzzled but what others had said , but your comments explain it all, which is why I went with techart which were 20mm an the NB cars and IMO just where you want to be and worth the extra few quid to get the ride height right.
If your interested in Techart I have included some info they sent me .

Thank you for contacting TECHART in this matter and your interest in TECHART spring kit.

097200100009 Spring Kit for 997, 997 S, with OE- / PASM-chassis
consisting of:
- 4x sport springs
(20mm drop, 15mm with PASM)
- mounting instruction
- TÜV certification

I have forwarded your email request to TECH 9, TECHART importer located in Liverpool.

They will get in contact with you and assist you.

Attachment: TECHART program

Best Regards,

Joerg Christiansen
Regional Sales Manager
North America and Great Britain

and the contact info for Tech9 the UK Techart distributor

Tech 9 Motorsport Ltd
Hale Garage
Hale Road
Liverpool
L24 5RB
United Kingdom


Tel :- +44 (0) 151 4255 911
Fax:- +44 (0) 151 4254 911

I will PM you what I paid for them in 2014


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, 20mm drop springs are for the Turbo and 4S which I believe already ride 10mm lower from the factory than the other cars. Hence the -20mm springs would give the same effect as the -30mm springs on the NB cars. I hope that makes sense! Question
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, well I just had some clarification from TechArt who offer a 20mm spring set for 997 and 997S.

If the springs are fitted to a car without PASM then the drop will be 20mm but if the car has PASM (standard with S models?) then the drop will only be 15mm.

What I don't know is if there will always be a difference of 5mm between the S and non S cars. E.g. Will a 15mm spacer only drop by 10mm on a car with PASM.
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