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highway
Albert Park


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Relieved thats sorted. So, see you on Wednesday night at the Fairmile! Cool
 
  
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cambjones
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1997 Porsche 993 Carrera 4

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish. Unfortunately that only removes one conflict. The other still remains, a work commitment that finishes a 6pm.

The weather is going to be great, long summer day, perfect conditions for it!!! Please all post lots of pics!!
 
  
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madalaa
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1995 Porsche 993 Carrera 4

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why I still have the car in my garage

Oh Jasus Zingers is going to pick up on that ........ we 993ers have a hard enough time without mentioning "in my garage" ........ sigh ..... Wink
 
  
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cambjones
Barcelona


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh No... what have I said...

Correction correction...

That was meant to imply ownership... not garage queenship...

Very Happy

Although truth be known, I really don't get it out enough... that's more a reflection of my lack of free time rather than lack of desire.

Zingers, please forgive....
 
  
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Zingari
Shanghai
Shanghai


Joined: 25 Oct 2009
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Location: Cheshire

1993 Porsche 964 Anniversary

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cambjones wrote:


Zingers, please forgive....


Hand It's a fine balance chum and pressure from the Illuminati to look at it rather than drive. Reminds me of Druids staring at Stonehenge what And they're out twice a year
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madalaa
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

..... twice a year!! ...... bit like my sex life ....... Floor
 
  
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cambjones
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picked up the car last night... felt very tight... but I would expect that after a major service and lots of new bits... HT Leads, Sparks, Rotor Arms, Dizzy Caps, Fuel Regulator, injector clean and all the major service bits inc break fluid.

They asked me to bring it back after ~10 trips so they can inspect the plugs and specifically cylinder 4 (not 5) which was the troublesome cylinder. If any of the plugs are fouled they'll know there might be another issue that caused the fouled plugs that might reoccur over time. It could be a slight oil leak getting into the cylinder that needs addressing.

For now... it's running beautifully...

Whilst I was in there, I spotted another 993... targa...with.. wait for it... 6k miles on it!!!! Surprised

Import from Japan, the current owner does not drive his collection of cars but treats them as investments.

Funny thing is, condition didn't look that much different from a 70k car that has been treated well... I guess it's just scarcity that creates this market... as Raj said.. this is not a drivers car...

I give Raj and team at 911SBD a pretty high score... they only charged me labour for the specific things they changed, not any of the diagnostic work or the test drives etc etc. They gave me a very detailed invoice at the end talking me through all the specific work they did. I felt like they were doing everything they could to minimise my expense, but not cut corners.

I got talking to Raj and he's got a 997 turbo he bought from a client and he's been working on it as a bit of a track car, got it up to 700bhp. It been set up by Chris and Center of Gravity.

The genesis of 911SBD was Porshe Cup Car mechanic, which over the years Raj split off the 'street car' servicing business which now is 911SBD. He has a relationship with Chris Turner Porsche down the road.. http://www.christurner.com/. In fact. Raj had Chris over to look at my car for another opinion... Nice to see the Porsche community alive.


I'll update again after the spark plug 'review'... good incentive to drive the car more!! funny how much I was itching for a drive whilst it was out for a month and a half.

Last edited by cambjones on Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:01 pm; edited 1 time in total
 
  
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madalaa
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great news Cam ........ enjoy ...... Smile
 
  
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stuttgartmetal
Indianapolis


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought Bosch diagnosed nothing wrong with the injectors ?

Distributor caps and leads are the hidden gremlin that 993's have
They look good, but aren't. All that poor starting and misfiring is this.
They're a pain to replace, but easily doable.

I bet your car flies now.
That remap will really working to its optimum now, that why you're getting pops and crackles.

I'm not going to blow my own trumpet, but I diagnosed your car fault in one.
What I mean is, I am going to f cking fire up the trumpets
I called that in one.

Cured

September Fairmile
Last one of the year
See you there
I won't say "make mine a large one", it's already big
My head I mean
But I will expect half a lager

LOL
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cambjones
Barcelona


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Floor

That's a lot of humour in just one post !!

Well you may just have been right, however time will confirm.

I'll buy you a beer at Fairmile! Thumb
 
  
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Citori
Kyalami


Joined: 09 Oct 2010
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Location: Rural Essex..

1996 Porsche 993 Carrera 2

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cam, been following this post with interest and I'm pleased that you got this sorted out at last.

HT leads, distributor caps and rotors seem to be one of the common things that are failing as our cars age.
It was noticed that one of my HT leads had been "repaired" rather badly when I first got the car, so I embarked on getting them replaced.
I asked a local independent specialist and was quoted nearly £1000 to supply and fit. WTF. Surprised
So armed with Jackals guide I decided to have a crack myself. Not really a hard job, more fiddly and time consuming. It took me a day and a half. One day to strip and fit, the next half day to reassemble.
However I have since done the job again on a friend’s car and having learnt some valuable lessons, like you don't have to remove the tinware to get the plug lead on the plug under the power steering pump, and we did it in under a day.

Now to the point! The plug lead that someone had repaired on my car with some tape had virtually come apart in two. It was the lower middle plug on the driver’s side of the car. On my friends car the same lead had broken in the same place.
One to check if anybody is having running problems.

Both my car and my friend’s car weren't showing any real signs of poor running with the old leads, but with the new leads, caps and rotors they both seemed to run smoother afterwards.

I was lucky that ECP were doing a special offer at the time and was able to get the OEM leads, caps and rotors for under £300 all in. Not too bad a saving for a day’s work and some skinned knuckles. Dont know


Edit: found a pic of the broken lead, not a very good one I admit.


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stuttgartmetal
Indianapolis


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Beru set Type911 supply are one and EXACT
That's to say, they're built to the exact spec.
The difficulty in fitting them is screwing them to the cowl behind the fan.
I used Jackals guide, ans apart from the part about using s shaped spanners, it was perfect. I used a snap on socket spanner for that.
Perfect.
If you're doing leads, do the plugs at the same time.
You won't be doing either again.
And for that matter, do the bottom covers at the same time, if they're leaking.
It's a long old job the 60,000 mile service.
I did it in full
Took about four days in total
I could do it in three now, but I just wanted to take my time and get it right.
I found the trick was to take breaks when it was doing your head in.

Jackals guide was the key.
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cambjones
Barcelona


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhhh..... engine issues....

I took it for the annual MOT at Kwikfit.. and it failed emissions. They suggested taking it for a blast and then trying again... I drove it home around the corner it started behaving like it did on that fateful day when I had to have it trucked away. It didn't start smoothly. I had to put my foot on the accelerator to get it to fire up.. and it coughed a little. then the car had more movement than normal, ie like everything wasn't balanced, like one of the cylinders was not in unison with all the others.

It sounded rough, then a few hundred meters down the road it was running fine again. I decided not to take it for a blast and risk doing damage. When I got home I could smell fuel.

So I've decided to take it down to Precision Porsche on Saturday. Everyone speaks so highly of them... I feel like they'll get to the bottom of this once and for all.
 
  
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mzmini
Suzuka


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know one of the guys at Precision Porsche top outfit, I think he's post the odd thing on here
good luck
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Riviera Bob
Nürburgring


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good choice...Jonny will sort it and it'll be interesting to hear the remedy.
 
  
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Chris-mac
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've recently had a similar problem

Strong smell of unburnt fuel on start up
Tickover rough and usually stalled when I tried to pull away, then wouldn't start.
Down on power and would give symptoms of running out of fuel when on overrun at motorway speeds.
Seemed to be running really lean and probably wouldn't pass the emissions test.

Turned out it was a failed lambda sensor!!

911 sport in Horncastle sorted it and it's been fine since, I've even done 2,000 miles in Europe without a single misfire.

Hope you get it sorted soon.
 
  
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madalaa
Yas Marina


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good decision Cam ........ if they can't get to the bottom of the problem nobody can ....... good luck.
 
  
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orangecurry
Donuts For Windows


Joined: 13 Mar 2008
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Location: West Sussex


PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cambjones wrote:
Ahhhhh..... engine issues....

I took it for the annual MOT at Kwikfit.. and it failed emissions. They suggested taking it for a blast and then trying again... I drove it home around the corner it started behaving like it did on that fateful day when I had to have it trucked away. It didn't start smoothly. I had to put my foot on the accelerator to get it to fire up.. and it coughed a little. then the car had more movement than normal, ie like everything wasn't balanced, like one of the cylinders was not in unison with all the others.

It sounded rough, then a few hundred meters down the road it was running fine again. I decided not to take it for a blast and risk doing damage. When I got home I could smell fuel.

So I've decided to take it down to Precision Porsche on Saturday. Everyone speaks so highly of them... I feel like they'll get to the bottom of this once and for all.


I don't understand - why don't you take it back to the first garage?

As they've replaced everything, it's certainly going to be easier for any other garage to find an issue, but were you not going to take it back as they were worried about cylinder 4?

If there is a problem with no.4, then the first garage have found the problem?
 
  
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madalaa
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With all due respect to the first garage ...... to be honest I don't think it was up to the task ....... in my opinion best to move on to resolve the problem with a garage that has an excellent reputation especially with the 993 ...... just saying ...... Smile
 
  
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cambjones
Barcelona


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1997 Porsche 993 Carrera 4

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey chaps.... I'm turning out to be probably the most promiscuous service person...and I want to be loyal. In my ownership since Jan 2010, it started at Paragon, then OPC Byfleet, then Porsche Torque Heathrow, then 911 SBD for this most recent issue (because they were the only one that was open sat afternoon when I had the engine issue)

I'm still trying to find the right garage match/relationship that works for me...

I think 911SBD were pretty good, I liked Raj, not a bad communicator, some good air-cooled experience, reasonable price labour £65. However, Raj was not always in (he owns the business) and I called him yesterday when I had this issue and he was not in for the day.

I thought if I'm there is a chance this is going to need a lot of work (£2k+) I want to be absolutely sure I'm with the right guys, and set up a future service relationship also.

Precision seems to get so much positive feedback on here I thought I'd give them a call. I spoke to Mark and then Peter and I just got a good feeling from them. Similarly to 911SBD they steered me away from a rebuild which I always appreciate. They also said they wanted all previous notes so they could avoid duplicating work. I also like the fact they have invested in a lot of Porsche service equipment which makes me feel like they are better prepared...

They are slightly more expensive at £75 labour.

I was trying to decide between Precision, 911SBD & Porsche Torque.

Sid at Porsche Torque also very good, and quite cheap too, small operation, direct relationship with Sid who works on your car, but he doesn't have the facilities that Precision have, which I felt was important for what I'm about to embark on.

Plus the drive down there is on country twisty roads... rather than North Circular or through London... thumbsup

I'll definitely get them to check the lambda sensor, thanks Chris-mac. Your issues sound very similar to mine.
 
  
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