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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking at those, I wondered why you didn't use them... but you did. I had them in my basket already but just thought I'd ask the question just in case I was missing something.

Button pressed and they are on their way to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything has arrived and the relevant bits will be sent to Alex so he can measure up and machine up the adjuster arms for me.




The centre to centre length is 367mm of the original toe arm.




This then makes the distance between the internal LH and RH threads 170mm. I need the threaded bar making up to 155mm to allow for some adjustment both ways and with a centre square piece to get a spanner onto for adjusting.




The standard bush width is 43mm




But when I put my rose joint parts together they made up to 47mm




So I ground the spacer washers by about 1.5 - 2mm to make around 43mm again.



I'm not sure when I will get the rods back from Alex but will update once they arrive.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done for taking the time to detail this , might be worth him making up some spares as sure they would sell thumbsup

I talked to McGill a and they don't offer that adjuster .
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I talked to McGill a and they don't offer that adjuster .


Thanks for checking anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I received the turnbuckles that Alex made for me and I'll admit these are better than anything I've seen online so far. They are steel so I've cleaned them up and coated them with clear lacquer to prolong their good looks.

I've set the arms to factory lengths to start with and I'll let them adjust them up to what extra they need. I look forward to fitting them and seeing how the rear end adjustment goes and if they make much difference.

Those rose joint rubber boots are a b!tch to fit!!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, as per my original question, I'm still unsure how the standard factory X74 kit get it's geometry if it uses normal toe arms, does any one actually know how they do set up X74 without adjustable toe arms?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I received the turnbuckles that Alex made for me and I'll admit these are better than anything I've seen online so far.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

infrasilver wrote:
Also, as per my original question, I'm still unsure how the standard factory X74 kit get it's geometry if it uses normal toe arms, does any one actually know how they do set up X74 without adjustable toe arms?


PET lists 2 rear toe arms but it's unclear why - the firmest has a note saying '99Ws6 00422' for one of them.

Could simply be a longer arm?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

with the rubber boots put them in hot water first and then put the rose joint in through one of the side holes makes it a lot easier.

Do you know if Alex is going to make more turnbuckles as i would buy a set ?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone would like some then I can knock them a set up, not a problem. Just let me know.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure the suspension setup is different I.e. the numbers so I wonder if the parts are the same or would that make the wheels not point in as much?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chriscoates81 wrote:
I'm sure the suspension setup is different I.e. the numbers so I wonder if the parts are the same or would that make the wheels not point in as much?


With the car as low as it is, -30mm, I run out of adjustment and as others have explained to me you need more on the toe arm to push out to get the desired amount on the eccentric bolt at the coffin arm. I was wondering how the factory X74 was able to be adjusted correctly if it didn't use different coffin or toe arms, I wonder what is included in an X74 kit if bought from OPC?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh I see and the catalog is normally pretty good with regards to listing parts for different options. Just had a quick look at the turbo catalog and it only differentiates between turbo and gt2 parts (the turbo has an x74/3 option) I read a while ago possibly on here that someone had fitted some meyle track control arms and they weren't quite the same dimensions as the tee/Porsche ones. What make are yours?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chriscoates81 wrote:
I read a while ago possibly on here that someone had fitted some meyle track control arms and they weren't quite the same dimensions as the tee/Porsche ones. What make are yours?


I think that was Alex? My originals toe arms were genuine Porsche so I can't see an issue with length.

Anyway today I eventually fitted the fully adjustable Toe arms I made up whilst the car was in the air having new wheels fitted (see what did you buy your 996 thread) and it will be in for Geo in the morning so I'll see how they get on, hopefully they can adjust to X74 as I previously wanted.

They do look nice but I'm sure they'll look like the rest of the underside of the car in no time at all.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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chriscoates81 wrote:
I read a while ago possibly on here that someone had fitted some meyle track control arms and they weren't quite the same dimensions as the tee/Porsche ones. What make are yours?


I think that was Alex? My originals toe arms were genuine Porsche so I can't see an issue with length.

Anyway today I eventually fitted the fully adjustable Toe arms I made up whilst the car was in the air having new wheels fitted (see what did you buy your 996 thread) and it will be in for Geo in the morning so I'll see how they get on, hopefully they can adjust to X74 as I previously wanted.

They do look nice but I'm sure they'll look like the rest of the underside of the car in no time at all.



Get some made up from stainless or titanium then they'll look good for ever Very Happy .
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All sorted at last, got my Geo set today to X74 and not too expensive for what are essentially Motorsport parts but made up with sourced parts.

My Geo guy was quite impressed with the toe arms and said it was really easy to get the set up correct with them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it was me with the different length coffin arms...........but I don't know what make the one I took off was. They could have both been the same make for all I know Dont know



Great work Chris!! thumbsup

I'm glad all the dimensions, etc. came in and the setting required was achieved.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I ask what this came to in the end?
I’ve a few lines up at around £230. Is it worth the hassle?

Alex do you have any more of these?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can I ask what this came to in the end?
I’ve a few lines up at around £230. Is it worth the hassle?


I think I have mentioned it elsewhere but unsure where and I can't remember exactly but I think £150 for all the parts to build these arms then I sold my old toe arms for around £50?
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