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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:29 pm    Post subject: Four Up - The Road Trip Reply with quote

Looking for some advice, Ladies & Gents:

I was thinking wistfully about taking a road trip down to Barcelona, to visit a mate, in the 996 C4S and it turns out the wife and kids are keen to come too!

Are we completely insane for contemplating this? Luggage space is one problem. The other is legroom for the kids in the back. We have two boys, 10 and 8 years old, who regularly use the back seats on shortish trips but I'm a bit worried about them being in there for the longer stints.

Anyone got any experience of travelling across Europe, fully loaded?!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crazy idea. Buy a Cayenne.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I travel down to the South of France once or twice a year. Last time was me, the bird and the dog. So long as the kids can fit in, should be ok. Stop every 4 hours to refuel and stretch and it's fine. Worst bit is driving through the UK.

If luggage is a problem, post it with UPS or the likes. Should only be about £20 each way.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the kids were no older than say 6 then you may have got away with it but even then it's a big ask (of them). Longest I've done is 7.5 hours to Cornwall last year but that was just me and the Mrs with the back seats full of luggage and shizzle.

Yep, Kimbo may be right Surprised

A 530d auto on the other hand would be an excellent weapon for such a journey & I know of one that's for sale Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
I travel down to the South of France once or twice a year. Last time was me, the bird and the dog. So long as the kids can fit in, should be ok. Stop every 4 hours to refuel and stretch and it's fine. Worst bit is driving through the UK.

If luggage is a problem, post it with UPS or the likes. Should only be about £20 each way.


Posting your luggage, never heard of that before, genius worship
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
I travel down to the South of France once or twice a year. Last time was me, the bird and the dog. So long as the kids can fit in, should be ok. Stop every 4 hours to refuel and stretch and it's fine. Worst bit is driving through the UK.

If luggage is a problem, post it with UPS or the likes. Should only be about £20 each way.


Posting your luggage, never heard of that before, genius worship
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex Yates. That is genius.


Or take two cars. I used to drive to Cornwall in the 993 behind Madam in the Estate car. Or was it the other way round.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently in Lisbon having taken the ferry over to Santander from Portsmouth. Driving around Europe is a piece of p. People make far too much of this. Just get in, close the doors and drive.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Wouldn't take it personally 4 up in a Cabriolet. Attempt a trial run with four sets of luggage, 2 cramped children. It'd be a nightmare, not a holiday. Let them fly down ahead and you take the cabriolet on a road trip Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the rate limiting factor is the rear passengers though - you can easily cross a continent in relative comfort, just so long as you're sat in the front...
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roro wrote:
I'm currently in Lisbon having taken the ferry over to Santander from Portsmouth. Driving around Europe is a piece of p. People make far too much of this. Just get in, close the doors and drive.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chimp911 wrote:
I think the rate limiting factor is the rear passengers though - you can easily cross a continent in relative comfort, just so long as you're sat in the front...


My GF just suggested sedating the kids with something appropriate. Ketamine should do the trick......and they'll probably enjoy it too.

What I really don't get is folk lie in bed for 8-10 hours, fly long haul flights for 17 hours, watch crap tv for 12 hours, sit in a grotty boozer for 10 hours, go to work for 8 hours........yet when it comes to having the experience of your life, crossing a continent, with epic scenery, on nice clear roads for 12 hours in the car of your dreams, folk sh!t their pants Dont know
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimbo wrote:
Crazy idea. Buy a Cayenne.

You mean,
crazy idea, buy a plane ticket & rent a car Thumb
you will thank me Smile
Or, fly the kids and wife their 2 days after you leave, then pick them up @ Barcelona airport Thumb Thumb everyones a winner Dont know i'm a genius Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
My GF just suggested sedating the kids with something appropriate. Ketamine should do the trick......and they'll probably enjoy it too.


Give me a dose of Ketamine and I'll happily sit in the back puh

I've driven over 40k miles in my 911, most of them in the Alps, Pyrenees, Scottish Highlands and travelled many of the very best roads Europe has to offer in between - a wonderful hedonsitic celebration of man and machine... Driving

But I also remember the mind-numbing boredom as a young lad in the back of the family car traversing France and Spain each summer as we trudged for hour after hour along featureless autoroutes... frustrated

Kids don't like to be sat in the back of cars for more than a few hours, much less if it is as cramped as a 911, and if you're putting your own concerns before those of your loved ones, then I doubt you'll enjoy the journey half as much as you're hoping...

Can it be done? Sure. Should it be done? Er...fly them there and drive down to meet them instead... Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are other options Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or post the kids, with UPS, £20 each Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now you're talking Grin

It wasn't all bad - driving through the tunnels around Monaco while standing on the back seat with my head poking out of the sunroof is a memory I'll cherish, as was sitting on my Dad's lap steering the car most of the way down from Calais to Dijon, but most of the fun (stupidity?) has long since been stolen from us by the safety nannies... nooo
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still do the odd Sunday afternoon spread eagled on the roof of my mates car, trying not to spill my pint......there's a serious knack to not falling off.


My memories as a child in the back were all down to the driver. Grandparents holiday driving was like watching the Mona Lisa being painted, being with my uncle was like racing James Hunt at Monza!

.......and Chimp, you know how fun you can make it for the kids driving through France and Spain Drive
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've driven from midlands to Portsmouth ferry to Bilbao then drove to Nerja (south coast Spain) in a long wheelbase land Rover (twin fuel tanks). Flew back in 2.5hrs.

Rode a Yamaha R1 to the Pyrenees mountains.

Great experience but not to be repeated. Some vehicles are not designed for long distance comfort. Just like the back seats in a 911 Cabriolet, small, bolt upright, no headroom, no leg room.

I suppose the other thing to consider is vehicle breakdown cover in Europe and getting the car back home, if the unfortunate were to happen.

Although we take the Boxster or 911 Cabriolet a few times a year to our place in the Vendee, we literally hit the toll roads from Eurotunnel all the way.

Take my advice, if you really want to take the 911, take it alone & fly the family to the airport. Get the 911 under something like Porsche Warranty & Breakdown for peace of mind. Get the car serviced, tyres changed for a deep tread if yours are currently 4mm or below. Take lots of fluid to drink it's easy to forget driving hr after hr. Spare light bulb set, alcohol tester, highvis jacket, puncture repair kit (all the things that the European Law says you should have compulsory in your vehicle at all times) .

It's very very expensive once you start to add things up, including travel costs.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well for starters, he's going in a coupe.

Jeez, you make it sound like they're planning a trip to the moon!

If there's 4 in the car - cost is comparable with flying.

It's only 800 miles from Calais - should lick that in under 12 hours. Deffo have breakdown cover.
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