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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:02 pm    Post subject: 997.1 PCM-delete options Reply with quote

Has anyone removed their PCM unit and replaced with a blank storage area?

I'm thinking about it. Not to save weight, but because I reckon the PCM 2.x is rubbish and I never use it anyway. Very clunky and it's look dated since launch. I don't use the stereo either. So I'd rather have that space as a super size cubby for a smartphone instead

There must be a sensible way to leave a jack lead to charge and play music from the mobile device if I really want to as well?

Has anyone on the forum done anything like this?

If so did you miss the PCM?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PCM from a 997.1 is a VHS in a digital era

but I dont think anyone has done this intentionally

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PCM 3 retrofit with phone integration is actually possible... Question

Otherwise you will want the PCM delete parts from the option on the RS/Cayman R/Box Spyder. No idea whether any of the solutions for plumbing a line-in into the 997.1 will work without either a CDR or PCM console though (I'd be surprised if the amp worked without, so you may be facing ditching that and replacing everything North of the speakers to make it work). Given that there are people out there who have replaced the PCM unit with an iPad Mini it won't be impossible with the right parts thrown at it though.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd have to really really want PCM3 to do it. As it will cost +/- £2000 to install and that's if you install it yourself.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just my 2p but PCM is crap compared to idrive.
I'd even go as far to say that Mercs Command system is better than PCM and that's pretty rubbish as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The part in the pic above is more what I had in mind. While I agree PCM 3 is much better, I just wouldn't use it enough to justify the cost, I'm better off with that shelf. I'll try and call the local OPC today to get an idea on price and availability. Replacing with an iPad mini sounds interesting though, any more info on that? I presume that's not a permanent install and it can be removed when leaving the car unattended? Hadn't thought about the amp system not being controllable without the PCM! Grin Indeed if that is going after all then may as well ditch the speakers too, although I think that would be a lot of extra unnecessary effort as the objective isn't really to save weight although that wouldn't do any harm...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the shelf was an option on the GT3 RS 4.0 [edit: as Colin mentioned above]


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also an option on GT2RS


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

£66+vat for the delete shelf thingy ... Tempting.. Will add this to my growing to do list Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isysman wrote:
You'd have to really really want PCM3 to do it. As it will cost +/- £2000 to install and that's if you install it yourself.


How much would charge to do this? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apollokre1d wrote:
isysman wrote:
You'd have to really really want PCM3 to do it. As it will cost +/- £2000 to install and that's if you install it yourself.


How much would charge to do this? Smile


About £10k! Haha Wouldn't want to do this job again. Once was enough.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough I heard it was a nightmare. Hopefully in the next couple of years there will be places offering that service.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apollokre1d wrote:
Fair enough I heard it was a nightmare. Hopefully in the next couple of years there will be places offering that service.


Doubt it really. Limited value in in as only a few people want it. Do it yourself. It's a pain but it's worth it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found these guys on my travels https://www.pcmrepairs.co.uk

Didn't call them or anything but if they can repair PCM units then probably a good place to ask about replacement / upgrade costs
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Roro that might actually be a good option when the times comes.
If not maybe I'll go with isysman's suggestion.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roro wrote:
Replacing with an iPad mini sounds interesting though, any more info on that?


Throw it to Google - the big US-centric forums have threads on it. One of them actually used the RS PCM delete shelf as the base for their installation bezel. Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they aren't too far from you, I can recommend these guys - http://www.autoaudio.uk.com/home.php

They did some simple work on my daily to link up my iphone but they showed me round the workshop and they had some amazing stuff in process
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that, it's definitely worth knowing Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disco wrote:
Roro wrote:
Replacing with an iPad mini sounds interesting though, any more info on that?


Throw it to Google - the big US-centric forums have threads on it. One of them actually used the RS PCM delete shelf as the base for their installation bezel. Thumb


What would be super cool is a pcm delete shelf and a Bluetooth module plumbed in for iphone, ipad , nav, phone, sounds etc.

Roro, do you have the sound pack option? Think this ads seprate amps so you may not need the head unit to acutually drive the speakers.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea of that a lot

This is an extract from my cars spec -

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Heated seats
446
Wheel centre set
482
Tire Pressure monitoring system (TPM)
490
Sound Package Plus incl. CD storage box
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Windscreen with grey top tint
640
Chrono Package Plus
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Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module
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Bi-Xenon lighting system
XSX
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Is 490 the sound option you mean?
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