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david_yorkshire
Spa-Francorchamps
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Location: Herts
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 Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:37 pm Post subject: 991.1 GT3 10 Year engine warranty
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New MD; so I thought I'd drop him an email...
Thank you for your email addressed to Alexander Pollich, our Managing Director.
I am sorry to read of the issues you have described regarding your Porsche GT3. Please accept my apologies on behalf of Porsche Cars Great Britain Limited.
With regards to your Porsche GT3 and the 10 year warranty, I can confirm that the warranty on internal engine components will last for ten years as from the new vehicle delivery date, or until the total mileage is 194,000 kilometres or 120,000 miles, depending on which comes first.
I appreciate your concern that you were not notified of the warranty. Please be assured that there was no intention to cause you any frustration.
Thank you for contacting Alexander and for your continued support in Porsche.
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short-shift
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Joined: 15 Apr 2013
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That's good to know - thanks for posting the outcome.
As I recall it, your car is already on a G-spec engine, so you should be free from any worries anyway...? Or did you have some specific concers that led you to ask for this confirmation?
James
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NXI20
Paul Ricard
Joined: 02 Feb 2008
Posts: 3385
Location: South Bucks
2004 Porsche 996 GT3 Mk2
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:40 am Post subject:
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You mean like selling it? 
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Nick
2004 GT3 CS in Atlas Grey with too many mods to list!
1995 993 GT2 recreation in Polar Silver
2010 GT3 CS in Riviera Blue 
1978 Carrera SC in Red (for sale)
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david_yorkshire
Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 05 Feb 2009
Posts: 291
Location: Herts
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:09 am Post subject:
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thanks Nick !
yes, I did have a specific reason, and yes I'm already on a G series engine.
Looks like the RS day at Oulton this year claimed another one; 
Came in at the flag for lunch, and could hear a ticking noise (even with helmet on).
Sounded like it was coming from the right side of the engine.
Let it idle for a few mins, no change so popped off to Shell for fuel
Got back to the pits - still ticking
(no warning lights at all)
Couple of guys approached me and said they had heard the noise earlier in the day, but it was louder now. (great...)
Car felt absolutely normal to drive.
Called up OPC & they advised recovery.
Declined at that point and headed off home, thoroughly pissed off.
Again the car felt 'normal' other than the ticking.
Spoke to an Indy on the way down - who confirmed my suspicions - most likely tappets.
Got home OK, & had car recovered into OPC.
Who have sat on it for a week without opening it up, as their one and only engine hoist was in use...
Porsche AG authorised them to drop the engine & remove right hand cam cover for inspection...
I have an extended warranty, so wasn't worried about replacement / cost, but it did prompt me to contact PCGB's new MD - I was quite surprised to get a response fairly quickly, stating that the engines are covered by the 10 yr / 120K miles FOC warranty.
So, lets see how long it takes to get the car back on the road this time !
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NXI20
Paul Ricard
Joined: 02 Feb 2008
Posts: 3385
Location: South Bucks
2004 Porsche 996 GT3 Mk2
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:15 am Post subject:
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Break it once at Oulton = unlucky
Break it twice at Oulton = jinxed
But seriously David, that's really bad news. I can't believe that it's still a problem after all this time. Poor show by Porsche.
What have they stuck you in this time while it's away?
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Nick
2004 GT3 CS in Atlas Grey with too many mods to list!
1995 993 GT2 recreation in Polar Silver
2010 GT3 CS in Riviera Blue
1978 Carrera SC in Red (for sale)
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jotaking
Hockenheim
Joined: 01 Jun 2012
Posts: 647
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:30 am Post subject:
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| david_yorkshire wrote: |
Spoke to an Indy on the way down - who confirmed my suspicions - most likely tappets.
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Could be the valve levers?
See technical bulletins attached.
Good luck with it!
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david_yorkshire
Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 05 Feb 2009
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Location: Herts
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:36 am Post subject:
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I know...
got an E class Merc
I did complain to Porsche GB, they said they couldn't give anything that wasn't on the Enterprise list; I then informed them that they have Huracans & Ferraris on their rental list.... Didn't go down well !
OPC have said that if it is lifters, it will be a replacement engine rather than repair. This is the guidance from Porsche AG.
Realistically, it means I'll be without the car for 4-5 weeks.
And then another running in period - if I can actually be bothered with that. might just pick it up from the OPC when its done and go straight to a track.
That should get it run in nicely
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NXI20
Paul Ricard
Joined: 02 Feb 2008
Posts: 3385
Location: South Bucks
2004 Porsche 996 GT3 Mk2
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:40 am Post subject:
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It's rubbish, isn't it?
I knew I was right in sticking to the best engine they ever made 
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Nick
2004 GT3 CS in Atlas Grey with too many mods to list!
1995 993 GT2 recreation in Polar Silver
2010 GT3 CS in Riviera Blue
1978 Carrera SC in Red (for sale)
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jotaking
Hockenheim
Joined: 01 Jun 2012
Posts: 647
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:50 am Post subject:
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It does help that Porsche have slapped a 10 year warranty on the engine.
Regarding the engine warranty....
I know a lot of GT3 cars have subtle modifications to the exhaust systems i.e Sharkwerks bypass or Akrapovic etc..
Knowing how ***** Porsche can be regarding warranty's & modifications.
Is your engine warranty okay if you have modded your GT3?
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david_yorkshire
Spa-Francorchamps
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Posts: 291
Location: Herts
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:26 am Post subject:
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who knows.... I dont
I'm surprised that there isn't a typical 'legal' communication from Porsche that states T&C's of the additional warranty.
I could view it that as there are no conditions or terms applied in the email from Porsche that you can do what you like with it.
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evodarren
Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
Posts: 317
Location: Southend on sea
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:10 pm Post subject:
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| NXI20 wrote: | It's rubbish, isn't it?
I knew I was right in sticking to the best engine they ever made |
Got to admit I ve had my 997 GT3 for 51/2 years and have total faith in the Mezger. Lovey engine with loads of character.
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1957 Speedster Replica (Vintage Speedsters)
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Bigfra
Monza
Joined: 22 Aug 2012
Posts: 190
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:24 pm Post subject:
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| evodarren wrote: | | NXI20 wrote: | It's rubbish, isn't it?
I knew I was right in sticking to the best engine they ever made |
Got to admit I ve had my 997 GT3 for 51/2 years and have total faith in the Mezger. Lovey engine with loads of character. |
Yeah but you want a 991 gt3 he he HE HE
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evodarren
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| Bigfra wrote: | | evodarren wrote: | | NXI20 wrote: | It's rubbish, isn't it?
I knew I was right in sticking to the best engine they ever made |
Got to admit I ve had my 997 GT3 for 51/2 years and have total faith in the Mezger. Lovey engine with loads of character. |
Yeah but you want a 991 gt3 he he HE HE |
Lol How are you getting on with yours Fraser.
My crystal ball says the 997 GT3 are going to increase this year. 
Or my fortune teller could be drastically wrong.
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Bigfra
Monza
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:21 pm Post subject:
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| evodarren wrote: | | Bigfra wrote: | | evodarren wrote: | | NXI20 wrote: | It's rubbish, isn't it?
I knew I was right in sticking to the best engine they ever made |
Got to admit I ve had my 997 GT3 for 51/2 years and have total faith in the Mezger. Lovey engine with loads of character. |
Yeah but you want a 991 gt3 he he HE HE |
Lol How are you getting on with yours Fraser.
My crystal ball says the 997 GT3 are going to increase this year.
Or my fortune teller could be drastically wrong. |
Love it mate. It's some car, first track day of the year for me on the 18th April so I am looking forward to that.
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david_yorkshire
Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 05 Feb 2009
Posts: 291
Location: Herts
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:27 pm Post subject:
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the Merc loaner is going back.
I'm getting a brand new Cayman S to play with tomorrow until mine is fixed
New engine arrives Friday, should be back home with me next friday.
fingers crossed
Well done OPC Cambs !
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DRZ911
Barcelona
Joined: 13 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:16 pm Post subject:
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David, really sorry to hear about the engine in your car.
I'm not very good at counting, so please bear with me. Including the original factory fit engine, will this new engine be the 3rd or 4th that the car has had ? Any details of the spec on each engine?
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991 Gen 2 GT3 Racing Yellow
Yamaha R1 and BMW R100RS
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kas750
Shanghai
Joined: 31 Mar 2013
Posts: 4593
Location: Chorley lancashire
2006 Porsche 911
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:05 pm Post subject:
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Jeez ,they will be mounting those 991 engines on Dzus fasteners at this rate!
Absolutely atrocious form. 
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david_yorkshire
Spa-Francorchamps
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Posts: 291
Location: Herts
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:38 pm Post subject:
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| DRZ911 wrote: | David, really sorry to hear about the engine in your car.
I'm not very good at counting, so please bear with me. Including the original factory fit engine, will this new engine be the 3rd or 4th that the car has had ? Any details of the spec on each engine? |
4th engine
last one was a G series
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DRZ911
Barcelona
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:08 pm Post subject:
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| david_yorkshire wrote: | | DRZ911 wrote: | David, really sorry to hear about the engine in your car.
I'm not very good at counting, so please bear with me. Including the original factory fit engine, will this new engine be the 3rd or 4th that the car has had ? Any details of the spec on each engine? |
4th engine
last one was a G series |
Thanks. So the G-series engine seems to be flawed as well.
If so, then another iteration is likely.
Wonder if the new 4 litre engine of the Gen 2 addresses all known 3.8 litre issues 
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Yamaha R1 and BMW R100RS
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G2
Albert Park
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:26 pm Post subject:
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Was looking at a 991.1 gt3 this week but head overruled the heart thinking the engine issues will make these cars the 991 turkey once the bubble bursts and we all go back to sensible homework before buying cars again.
Shame as I think they are great track tools. But the thought of buying a car that the manufacturer has to warrant the engine for 10 years free to paper over the cracks, No way.
Fair play to those that own them. Drive em and exploit the warranty when issues occur. But make sure they are gone before year 10.
To think people were paying overs for these?? Madness.
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