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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ELA wrote:
I shall be bringing the car over to Blighty to make its UK debut at 'Simply Porsche' Beaulieu in June. If you would like to have a closer look prior to this, I will be staying a few days in Essex before heading on down to Beaulieu so would be happy to show fellow enthusiasts around the car. My plan is to come over on the 31st May, then head back home on the 5th June. I will be staying near Southend.



Essex you say !! My neck of the woods Grin
Then obviously I'm going to Beaulieu, likely going down night before like last 2 years ... I feel a plan coming on thumbsup
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sound good to me Guy, keep me informed Wink

Since being back on the road, the car has been tested everyday, lots of little issues here and there ironed out and slowly getting there.
A few scenic pics taken along the way (excuse the filthy car in the way Smile some of the tracks were a bit dusty )








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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good!
I have a second pride & joy as well as my 996. It's a Vans RV-8 based just outside Farnham, which happens to be on the way to Beaulieu. Perhaps you might be interested in swapping a go in mine for a go in yours?

Six litres of Lycoming's finest and a VP prop. It's a little fighter.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin996RSR wrote:
Looking good!
I have a second pride & joy as well as my 996. It's a Vans RV-8 based just outside Farnham, which happens to be on the way to Beaulieu. Perhaps you might be interested in swapping a go in mine for a go in yours?

Six litres of Lycoming's finest and a VP prop. It's a little fighter.


I'll have to admit, I'm no aero-sexual Martin and had to look up what it was Grin
It is a very kind offer and if it works out ok for you then I will gladly oblige, but I am more than happy to let you go in mine regardless Thumb

Today I will hopefully finish the last real PITA job on the car (the remaining parts should be plain sailing from here on after these).
The carbon door cards came with pre-cut holes which don't line up with anything. Also I will have to utilise a different handle and door pull mechanism. I ordered some Porsche 944 inner door handles and have managed to modify the existing door pull cable to get them working. Still not sure on door pull yet. Getting the panel to line up with the handle is also a bit tricky so it will end up being a bit of a bodge to some degree. Worse case scenario, I can always fit the stock door cards back on, it would just mean a 5kg penalty


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Marky911
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still looking great Rich.

Can you not rig up some sort of fabric 964RS style pulls?
Not sure if that would make things easier or harder to sort mind. Question

Either way I'm sure you'll come up with a neat solution.


PS. Acceleration looks "lively" to say the least. Good work!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marky911 wrote:
Still looking great Rich.

Can you not rig up some sort of fabric 964RS style pulls?
Not sure if that would make things easier or harder to sort mind. Question

Either way I'm sure you'll come up with a neat solution.


PS. Acceleration looks "lively" to say the least. Good work!


Thanks Marky, if truth be told, I've had a nightmare weekend, was on the car from 08:00-22:00 sat and 09:00-18:00 sun whilst it was 25.C here; a few unforeseen issues that need sorting, all part of the fun I guess Sad

Well I've come up with a solution for the doors. Not perfect but they are at least on. Also had a letter arrive on Saturday. The postman handed it over with a smile mentioning it is the right stamp for me Smile

Here are a few pics giving an indication as to how the doors were fitted













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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you must have considered manual windows to save a little more weight. Can you say why you didn't go with them? Too much of a faff vs weight saved, or just something to develop in the future?
 
  
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NLW73
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh my oh my. those doors and door cards look epic Richard. jesus that is sth else. the interior looks like a great place to be. I love the red RS fabric pulls too. nice touch.

can't wait to see the finished product and hopefully see in flesh and hear too.

top top work as ever!!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stunning work as ever thumbsup
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin996RSR wrote:
I'm sure you must have considered manual windows to save a little more weight. Can you say why you didn't go with them? Too much of a faff vs weight saved, or just something to develop in the future?


No 996 (or 986) was ever offered with keep fit windows, so to do that the entire mechanism would have to be developed and engineered from scratch. There wouldn't be any mounting support in the door design either and since ELA has opted for carbon doors and cards then there would surely be far too much potential flex in the system for a winder to be mounted to permit an effective and consistently aligned mechanism wouldn't there? I'd be surprised if the weight of a window motor would justify going to such lengths?

Meanwhile another question : are the carbon door cards ultimately going to invest a few grammes in pockets or nets to provide a bit of extra storage? The 996.1 isn't exactly brimming with places to put things at the best of times...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disco wrote:
Martin996RSR wrote:
I'm sure you must have considered manual windows to save a little more weight. Can you say why you didn't go with them? Too much of a faff vs weight saved, or just something to develop in the future?


No 996 (or 986) was ever offered with keep fit windows, so to do that the entire mechanism would have to be developed and engineered from scratch. There wouldn't be any mounting support in the door design either and since ELA has opted for carbon doors and cards then there would surely be far too much potential flex in the system for a winder to be mounted to permit an effective and consistently aligned mechanism wouldn't there? I'd be surprised if the weight of a window motor would justify going to such lengths?

Meanwhile another question : are the carbon door cards ultimately going to invest a few grammes in pockets or nets to provide a bit of extra storage? The 996.1 isn't exactly brimming with places to put things at the best of times...


The electric mechanism simply isn't that heavy plus the great advise from Disco. Even if I went to the trouble of going down this route, I doubt there would even be 0.5kg saved per door. But the main reason is I always wanted the car to function on as close to an OEM level as possible. Going all Neanderthal with window winders, kind of defeats this objective Smile

Great thinking Disco ref door bins, see the end of page 23 for your answer and also the video at the top of page 24. In coming up with this solution it, pretty much recovers all the storage space lost with my carbon door cards Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BHZ661 wrote:
Stunning work as ever thumbsup


NLW73 wrote:
oh my oh my. those doors and door cards look epic Richard. jesus that is sth else. the interior looks like a great place to be. I love the red RS fabric pulls too. nice touch.

can't wait to see the finished product and hopefully see in flesh and hear too.

top top work as ever!!


Thanks guys

NLW73, I'll be over in the UK with the car at the end of May so hopefully I'll be able to meet you at the 'Simply Porsche' event
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pefect. hoping to be heading down there with the GT3.

are you doing the martini or other decals before then?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ELA wrote:







Very neat. Thumb

Sounds like a bit of an endurance challenge! You're definitely winning though and cool stamp. Cool
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

loving all that carbon!

Is it a lot louder now inside the car with those doors?

Surely remote solenoids to pop the doors open and keep that carbon interior door skin looking clean?!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the car, such a huge amount of original, focused work. Unconvinced about the bumpers - but agree with the idea of making it distinctive.

Maybe just having the red bits restricted to the lower parts of the bumpers? Kind of like this?

 
  
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ELA
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NLW73 wrote:
pefect. hoping to be heading down there with the GT3.

are you doing the martini or other decals before then?


I have a few decals in production right now but nothing so lairy as Martini Wink

Marky911 wrote:
Very neat. Thumb

Sounds like a bit of an endurance challenge! You're definitely winning though and cool stamp. Cool


Thanks Marky thumbsup

BenC wrote:
loving all that carbon!

Is it a lot louder now inside the car with those doors?


No additional noise from the doors. I have also used the original insulation. If anything these doors will be quieter than the thin steel doors.

Avon wrote:
Love the car, such a huge amount of original, focused work. Unconvinced about the bumpers - but agree with the idea of making it distinctive.

Maybe just having the red bits restricted to the lower parts of the bumpers? Kind of like this?


Thanks Avon Thumb
Great idea, not sure the Carrera bumpers lend themselves naturally to being painted in this way.
If you see the car in the flesh it does look much better than the pictures I have taken and I had now also designed a logo and others factors are based on the current paint scheme. So I have moved on to other areas for now. Nothing to say I wont come back to this at another time perhaps but for now I am happy Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Richie, loving the door cards and all the rest (still unsure on the bumper lines though Wink ). But as ever I'm in awe of the quality and skill. See you in a few weeks Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ELA,
Great work, as usual.
Just wondering what were the final corner loads for the car?
And how much did the loading shift front/rear?
Thanks.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New997buyer wrote:
Hi Richie, loving the door cards and all the rest (still unsure on the bumper lines though Wink ). But as ever I'm in awe of the quality and skill. See you in a few weeks Thumb


Sorry Paul, just read this, shame we didn't get a chance to have a good chat last week. Would also have loved to have gone for a run Wink next time maybe. As ever thank you for your thoughts Smile


terra wrote:
ELA,
Great work, as usual.
Just wondering what were the final corner loads for the car?
And how much did the loading shift front/rear?
Thanks.


Hi Terra, I looked into buying some corner weight scales the other day but just can't justify the cost just yet. I still have a few bits I'm waiting on (brakes and wing mirrors). Once these are fitted I'll try and get to a weighbridge.
Regarding the weight distribution, I'm hoping for a little more forward bias with the 50kg removed from behind the rear axle and the additional rake angle.
I expect the car to come in around 1090kg dry (1120kg wet). And hopefully a few percent more neutral weight distribution. I think they come in 39:61 stock so hopefully something like 43:57 can be achieved. I could calculate but I am on duty the weekend so getting all the weights and moments worked out is not something I plan on doing just now Grin
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