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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is some chancer trying to sell some on eBay for £400 each....... nooo
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Y2K wrote:
Hello poppopbangbang,

Which option did you go for in the end?

I was looking at the D911 kit and found this thread. The 'X51 oil pan' mentioned by Stuart above looks similar also.

I'd like to protect the engine without losing too much ground clearance, as mine is a road car first track car second.

Not planning to use any sticky tyres (probably at most Michelin Super Sport, but most likely PS2).

Thank you.


Sorry I've been flat out at work recently so not been on much. Mine has the D911 X51 style "deep" sump on it which drops ground clearance by about 20mm. It's done 30K or so on this without a problem and the baffle design is a straight copy of the X51 baffles in a slightly deeper sump, hence more oil capacity.

X51 sump is cheaper but standard oil capacity. As mine does A LOT of miles having an extra half litre onboard is worthwhile.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Autofarm sell a kit:

http://www.autofarm.co.uk/parts/engines/sump_extension

is this a variation on a theme - they talk of an additional 1.5l of oil capacity.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have expected Autofarm to know how to spell PEACE OF MIND.

Piece of mind? WTF does that actually mean? Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poppopbangbang wrote:


Sorry I've been flat out at work recently so not been on much. Mine has the D911 X51 style "deep" sump on it which drops ground clearance by about 20mm. It's done 30K or so on this without a problem and the baffle design is a straight copy of the X51 baffles in a slightly deeper sump, hence more oil capacity.

X51 sump is cheaper but standard oil capacity. As mine does A LOT of miles having an extra half litre onboard is worthwhile.


Thank you very much!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toobusy wrote:
Autofarm sell a kit:

http://www.autofarm.co.uk/parts/engines/sump_extension

is this a variation on a theme - they talk of an additional 1.5l of oil capacity.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Y2K wrote:
poppopbangbang wrote:


Sorry I've been flat out at work recently so not been on much. Mine has the D911 X51 style "deep" sump on it which drops ground clearance by about 20mm. It's done 30K or so on this without a problem and the baffle design is a straight copy of the X51 baffles in a slightly deeper sump, hence more oil capacity.

X51 sump is cheaper but standard oil capacity. As mine does A LOT of miles having an extra half litre onboard is worthwhile.


Thank you very much!


One thing to note is the D911 X51 style sump is made by FVD in Germany, who also sell it under their own brand. It's a very nice bit of kit and is machined from billet with what look to be a copy of the X51 baffles in it (no bad thing as copying an OEM tested design is the best way to do it in 99% of cases).

This is it on FVDs page http://www.fvd.de/de/en/Porsche-0/924S-14-25/-/-/item/item_details/VID_24184876-VCD_69520791-gid_194-sort_4-display_50-item_FVD20798801/Tuning_-_Engine_-_Oil_System_FVD20798801_Oil_pan__FVD_Motorsport.html





I would have got it straight from FVD at 395€ especially as I could order it through work but they were out of stock when I had mine in bits!

Having used my car on circuit A LOT I've never had any issues with oil pressure, I have an EVO4 logger so generally have a bit of a glance over after a session to make sure it's had nothing bad going on with it, using Pilot Sports and Ohlins it's certainly not a track car on slicks but can pull some respectable lateral G. I think really this is all you need on a road driven, occasional track car.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't have a deep sump but I like the design of those baffles, I like how it keeps extra capacity in the oil pick up area, I may have to get the Meccano out.. I assume the pick up is extended on that kit?
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poppopbangbang wrote:
Useful info


Thank you for the link.

I was all set to go with X51 but you've convinced me with FVD; especially at that price.

If you have no problems with ground clearance when running with Ohlins (and do tons of miles) then me with M030 should be fine too. Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

infrasilver wrote:
I can't have a deep sump but I like the design of those baffles, I like how it keeps extra capacity in the oil pick up area, I may have to get the Meccano out.. I assume the pick up is extended on that kit?


All the kits I have seen state they include a pick up extension. Is that what the "oval" piece is for?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toobusy wrote:
Is that what the "oval" piece is for


Yes, it allows the pick up to be as close to the sump bottom as possible.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to pick up on an old thread, but thanks for Y2K for directing me to it.

Sounds like I need the X51 sump, design 911 sump or FVD sump.

I've just left a message with my local OPC to see if they can get the X51 but it sounds like opinion is that the design 911/FVD is better due to increased capacity.... so is that the way to go even if the OPC come back with an X51 for cheaper?

So, I can see the FVD one from poppopbangbang's post.
https://www.fvd.net/de-en/FVD20798801/fvd-motorsport-oil-pan.html

I think that works out at about £430

Design 911 seem to have several pages and codes but I think they are the same, so can anyone tell me if there is any difference between these 2 and if so which one I should go for:

https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod6303/Deep-Sump-Oil-Pan-Kit-Porsche-996--997---Boxster-986-987--Cayman/

https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod139305/Deep-Sump-Oil-Pan-Kit-Porsche-996---997---Boxster-986---Boxster-987---Cayman-987C/

Is there any difference what so ever between the design 911 and FVD one or should I just go for the cheaper option? that appears to be the design 911 at £389 and I may get it cheaper if I hold out for a sale.

FVD sell a fitting kit so I guess I need that too.

And finally, it would be done at the same time as a service at Revolution so do I literally just tell them to put an extra 0.6L of oil in and away we go?

Many thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you had a word with Baz at Hartech about this. I know he has been doing some work on improved sumps.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just realised that the FVD is cheaper once you add the VAT to the design 911 price.

I spoke to Grant at Hartech to advised that they sell a sump and baffle for circa £800+ vat.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and for info the X51 oil pan is still available for £156v + Vat.

As per my post above though it sounds like the FVD is the better option..... is that right?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steff,

See below.

poppopbangbang wrote:

One thing to note is the D911 X51 style sump is made by FVD in Germany, who also sell it under their own brand. It's a very nice bit of kit and is machined from billet with what look to be a copy of the X51 baffles in it (no bad thing as copying an OEM tested design is the best way to do it in 99% of cases).


If you’re buying from D911, use 911UK discount code 911UK09 for 5% off.

My mechanic said 9.8L so extra 800ml.

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Many thanks. I'll keep an eye out for a new year bargain
 
  
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