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FZP
Reims
Joined: 18 Jan 2015
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Location: Cheshire
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 Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:31 pm Post subject: internal window smear
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Hi all,
Any idea what is the cause of the never ending smear on the inside of the drivers and passengers windows? Also is there a solution. My OCD isn't coping well. 997.2 S is the car
Thanks
FZP
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GT4
Nordschleife
Joined: 08 Nov 2008
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Location: Hertfordshire and Hampshire
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Do you carry:
Dogs?
Children?
Excitable "ladies"?
In truth it will probably be some "cleaning" or lubricating product on the window rubbers, or worse, door internals.
Make sure the inside "velvet" is nice and clean.
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FZP
Reims
Joined: 18 Jan 2015
Posts: 4082
Location: Cheshire
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:36 pm Post subject:
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None to any of the three. I've read that this isn't a unique problem, and that it is a common complaint. But before I go and pull a door card off, if there was some sage advice that would lead me in the right direction.
It looks like some sort of silicone lubrication. Interestingly, the smears appear on two different sections of glass on either door.
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GT4
Nordschleife
Joined: 08 Nov 2008
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Location: Hertfordshire and Hampshire
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When I said "or worse, door internals", it can be grease from the regulator mechanism/runners.
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Magic919
Barcelona
Joined: 05 Jun 2013
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Location: Berkshire
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:10 pm Post subject:
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Someone said it was oily water getting spat out by the window motor and he had the dealer cover it. Another guy said the OPC replaced the window rubber or similar.
I just accept they can't fix it on mine.
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Gollom122
Suzuka
Joined: 21 Jul 2010
Posts: 1144
Location: North East England
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:48 pm Post subject:
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I get this and its annoying.
I am guessing, but believe it to be silicone lubricant, as a few years ago I had a squeaky window that the OPC fixed and ever since I have no squeak but do have smears on the front quartile after using the window when the car is wet.
I keep hoping the lubricant will dry up and the problem will go away - however the squeak might come back !
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Lordglenmorangie
Nürburgring
Joined: 14 Mar 2012
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Location: Yorkshire
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:10 pm Post subject: N
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I would welcome smears from an excitable women , 
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megdog
Silverstone
Joined: 11 Mar 2012
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:14 pm Post subject:
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I have the same on my car. I only use it as a weekend car so I don't mind cleaning it every now and then, but it is a bit of a puzzle. I do find that my car is very humid inside, probably because it sits in a cold garage most of her life and is hence a sod to demist on a cold evening. Perhaps the condensation in my car is causing it?
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shnoo shnoo
Trainee
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:01 pm Post subject:
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Also have this on my drivers side window (2010) seems quite common
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GT4
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Location: Hertfordshire and Hampshire
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: N
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| Lordglenmorangie wrote: | | I would welcome smears from an excitable women , |
How many shades?
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SockToy
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Same problem on 2009 c4s. Might ask them to look at it in october service but no biggy till then
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Lordglenmorangie
Nürburgring
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: N
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| GT4 wrote: | | Lordglenmorangie wrote: | | I would welcome smears from an excitable women , |
How many shades? |
Well at my age fifty would be way to many 
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GT4
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davidjf7
Imola
Joined: 21 Oct 2010
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Location: Hertfordshire
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:35 pm Post subject:
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Same problem (997.2 C2S)
Dealer said it may or may not be covered under warranty. They wouldn't know until they took the doors apart.
I'm putting up with it for now 
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Lordglenmorangie
Nürburgring
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:52 am Post subject:
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You are driving to slow, if you have time to look out of the side windows 
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Mr-D
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Joined: 05 Jun 2014
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Location: Doncaster
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:48 pm Post subject:
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Same here, I also had the same problem on my Alpina D3 BiTurbo coupe and never found out what caused it.....
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RS2 JIM
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:24 pm Post subject:
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I have exactly the same on the first 1/5th of the passenger window. It's a light oil type smearing. A quick wipe sorts it but it's rather infuriating.
I haven't tried wiping the felt/rubber guide so will do that and see if that's the root cause.
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michelin
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I've cleaned the rubbers etc and to no avail. It is integral to the door.
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leasky
Monza
Joined: 05 May 2010
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Location: NE Scotland / Middle of the Sand Pit (Iraq)
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:40 pm Post subject:
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Yes, same here; I have had it on both my 997's (Gen 1 + 2).
It is a pain in the hoop but luckily I have little or no cause to take my window down in NE Scotland
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davidjf7
Imola
Joined: 21 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:46 pm Post subject:
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| Lordglenmorangie wrote: | | You are driving to slow, if you have time to look out of the side windows |
We need to have clear side windows to look out of when trying to control arm fulls of opposite lock on the way to work 
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