Welcome to 911UK
The only place for Porsche, 911uk is the definitive enthusiast and resource site for the Porsche 911.
Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so join up today for full access to the site and benefit from latest member offers.

Porsche Classifieds
Porsche Buyers Guides
Sell Your Porsche on 911uk
Create a Free Classified Advert
Search Ads
Classified Adverts FAQ
Trade Classified Information
Buyer & Seller Fraud Protection
Pre Purchase Inspection (PPI)
Porsche Car Sourcing
Porsche Cars Wanted
Model
Stock
Porsche 911
991 : 2011- 10
997 : 2004- 65
996 : 1997-2005 44
993 : 1993-1998 10
964 : 1989-1993 4
Carrera 3.2 : 1983-1989 0
Carrera SC : 1977-1983 0
930 Turbo : 1975-1989 0
Early 911 : 1964-1977 2
Porsche Other Models
Classic : 1950-1965 1
Boxster : 1997- 16
Cayman : 2005- 13
Cayenne : 2003- 9
Macan : 2014- 1
Panamera : 2009- 3
912-914-924-928-944-968 3
959 - CarreraGT - RaceCar 1
Car Parts For Sale & Wanted
Other Items For Sale & Wanted
Wheels Tyres For Sale & Wanted
Number Plates For Sale Wanted

Porsche Services
Porsche Body Shop Repair
Paint Protection & Body Wrapping
Porsche Classic Insurance
Porsche Classic Parts
Porsche Classic Restoration
Porsche Design Collection
Porsche Engine Gearbox Rebuild
Porsche Heritage & History
Porsche News
Porsche Picture Gallery
Win a New Porsche 911

Porsche Parts
Body Parts, Body Styling
Brakes, Clearance
Electrical, Exhausts
Engine Cooling, Engine Electrical
Engine Rebuild, Heating Cooling
Interior Incar, Lighting
Rubber Seals, Service Parts
Steering, Suspension
Transmission, Workshop Tools
Early 911, 911 - 930, 928 - 968
964 - 993, 996 - 997, Boxster
Cayman, Cayenne, Panamera

Porsche Model Range
911 [991] 2011-Current
Porsche 911 [991]
911 [997] 2004-Current
Porsche 911 [997]
911 [GT] GT1-GT2-GT3
Porsche 911 [GT]
911 [996] 1997-2005
Porsche 911 [996]
911 [993] 1993-1998
Porsche 911 [993]
911 [RS] RS-RSR
Porsche 911 [RS]
911 [964] 1989-1993
Porsche 911 [964]
911 3.2 1983-1989
Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera
911 SC 1977-1983
Porsche 911 SC
911 [Early] 1964-1977
Porsche 911 [Early]
Boxster & Cayman
Porsche Boxster & Cayman
Cayenne & Panamera
Porsche Cayenne & Panamera

911uk Site Partners

Post new topic   Reply to topic
Author Message
stumpy
Trainee


Joined: 14 Jun 2014
Posts: 71
Location: Kent


PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont know
_________________
Current drive: M3 CSL
Next drive: 997 GT3

Last edited by stumpy on Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:20 pm; edited 1 time in total
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
kingston
Österreich


Joined: 09 Jun 2010
Posts: 912



PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As none are available to test drive and i have expressed my interest in one with hatfield, i would like to know if its going to be as stiffly sprung as a 996 gt3 (considerig the spring rates are greater than it but has pasm) or abit more damp shall we say

While gearbox, will bang through the gears quickly or be more tourer?

Or would you rather just talk about the financial aspects of a car and not the mechanical?
_________________
I really must learn to spell check and proof read my posts Smile
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
GT4
Nordschleife
Nordschleife


Joined: 08 Nov 2008
Posts: 30192
Location: Hertfordshire and Hampshire


PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uses 991 GT3 suspension (settings), and therefore PASM with it Cloud 9

Gearbox will be normal 981 (991) feel (AFAIK no standard SSK).

Last edited by GT4 on Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:06 pm; edited 1 time in total
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Chris_in_the_UK
Paul Ricard


Joined: 19 Mar 2014
Posts: 3480
Location: Harrogate


PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UK allocation looks like it has more than sold, bit academic really.

kingston wrote:
As none are available to test drive and i have expressed my interest in one with hatfield, i would like to know if its going to be as stiffly sprung as a 996 gt3 (considerig the spring rates are greater than it but has pasm) or abit more damp shall we say

While gearbox, will bang through the gears quickly or be more tourer?

Or would you rather just talk about the financial aspects of a car and not the mechanical?

_________________
2006 Cayman S PCCB's
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
kingston
Österreich


Joined: 09 Jun 2010
Posts: 912



PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow the happiness in this thread is just like one doing a wet fart.

Dont think Hatfield have announced who is getting one yet... Should i be fortunate enough, i would like to know whether swapping a 996 GT3 for one would be a good move with regards to how it feels on the road.

Or if im unable to get one, see how it would have felt on the road considering the spring rates and pasm (of which i dont because alpha male).

So by the sounds of it, the gearbox is not set-up for quickly banging through it but more touring/big power circuits.
_________________
I really must learn to spell check and proof read my posts Smile
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
GT4
Nordschleife
Nordschleife


Joined: 08 Nov 2008
Posts: 30192
Location: Hertfordshire and Hampshire


PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you driven a standard 981 manual?

More snickerty than a snickerty thing.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
the_rossatron
Trainee


Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Posts: 79



PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
Uses 991 GT3 suspension (settings), and therefore PASM with it Cloud 9

Gearbox will be normal 981 (991) feel (AFAIK no standard SSK).


The rear springs are not quite as stiff as the GT3 due to the different distribution of weight.

I have an order in but haven't heard if I'll get one yet. Never found it so hard to spend £70k!
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
GT4
Nordschleife
Nordschleife


Joined: 08 Nov 2008
Posts: 30192
Location: Hertfordshire and Hampshire


PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But they will have the same effective stiffness in feel.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
kingston
Österreich


Joined: 09 Jun 2010
Posts: 912



PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there nothing else in the line up past or present thats easily test driveable thats the same then?
_________________
I really must learn to spell check and proof read my posts Smile
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
GT4
Nordschleife
Nordschleife


Joined: 08 Nov 2008
Posts: 30192
Location: Hertfordshire and Hampshire


PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there anything else like the entirely new GT4?

Well it's either yes, a 981cS manual or it's no.

Depends on how similar you mean.

I suppose by concept, the 987cR is closest.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Disco
Estoril


Joined: 13 May 2008
Posts: 3643
Location: Hertfordshire

2010 Porsche 997 GT3

PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
Is there anything else like the entirely new GT4?


No. For different reasons, the closest equivalents (by roughly equal measure) would be a 981 GTS or a 987 R. However, the availability of a factory cage and harnesses, the properly adjustable suspension with split arms and GT3 braking system are without precedent and make the GT4 the only Boxster derivative that could genuinely claim to have track suitability out of the box.

You certainly cannot compare it to Caterhams or Lotuses as some have - same use case but nothing like the same kind of product.

Porsche GB have really failed with the allocation for GT cars again though - as with previous models they have not secured enough cars to meet UK demand (the whole 2 year production for GB being sold within 2 days) whereas reports are that cars can be had on the continent for delivery in time for summer.
_________________
Colin

Black 997 GT3 3.8 CS - Acquired for the 2012 season and beyond
Black 996 GT3 Mk2 - Gone, but will never be forgotten
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
GT4
Nordschleife
Nordschleife


Joined: 08 Nov 2008
Posts: 30192
Location: Hertfordshire and Hampshire


PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My question was rhetorical, in response to:

kingston wrote:
Is there nothing else in the line up past or present thats easily test driveable thats the same then?


And the answer depends on how precisely Kingston is using the term "the same"!

981cS is at least easily test drivable.

Personally, the very asking of the question undermines what the GT4 stands for.

Like asking if a Carrera S or GTS tell you what a GT3 drives like.

I mean on the most basic level it does (over, say a Land Rover), but entirely misses the essence of the GT3.

There is nothing else!
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
kingston
Österreich


Joined: 09 Jun 2010
Posts: 912



PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i meant suspension firmness
_________________
I really must learn to spell check and proof read my posts Smile
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
flyboywill
Newbie


Joined: 20 Feb 2015
Posts: 1



PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:54 pm    Post subject: UK orders? Reply with quote

Hi,

Apologies if this is the wrong area, I'm new here.

I have a deposit in with a UK dealer. It felt like I had to persuade them to take my money. I sent an expression of interest 18 months ago. Anyway...

I'm told they're taking deposits until the 28th Feb, which is when they'll receive allocations and they'll get back to us beginning of Mach to allocate slots to the 'winners'.

Does everyone else have a similar story?

Best regards,

Will
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Disco
Estoril


Joined: 13 May 2008
Posts: 3643
Location: Hertfordshire

2010 Porsche 997 GT3

PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: UK orders? Reply with quote

flyboywill wrote:
Hi,

Apologies if this is the wrong area, I'm new here.

I have a deposit in with a UK dealer. It felt like I had to persuade them to take my money. I sent an expression of interest 18 months ago. Anyway...

I'm told they're taking deposits until the 28th Feb, which is when they'll receive allocations and they'll get back to us beginning of Mach to allocate slots to the 'winners'.

Does everyone else have a similar story?

Best regards,

Will


There is a thread over on Pistonheads about it. Basically they are expecting at most half as many cars as they have taken deposits in the UK due to Porsche GB securing a woefully inadequate allocation of the production (as they do with all limited production capacity vehicles). The expectation is that who gets the cars will be the people who run the most revenue through the dealer principle's books, but at this point that is pure speculation. Suffice to say - any major regular customers (especially 918 buyers) who want a car are likely to be bumped higher up the list than people who are only interested in the GT4 itself as a specific purchase. There have been a number of reports of OPCs refusing to take deposits from people since less than a week after the cars announcement as they didn't want to take money from people with no chance of getting a car.

At this point, there really isn't anything that you can do but wait and hope. If you would settle for left hand drive there is anecdotally no such allocation issue from buying on the continent, but overseas dealers are reportedly not inclined to try and source a UK C16 for you.

In a week or so the situation will be better known anyway.
_________________
Colin

Black 997 GT3 3.8 CS - Acquired for the 2012 season and beyond
Black 996 GT3 Mk2 - Gone, but will never be forgotten
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
freddie44
Albert Park


Joined: 20 Aug 2009
Posts: 1615
Location: West Kensington

2007 Porsche 997 GT3

PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just buy a 997.1 GT3 right now and be done... Grin

You'll thank me in the long run!! Smile
_________________
1967 Alfa Romeo duetto Spyder
1988 Mercedes 300SL
2007 Porsche 997.1 GT3 Clubsport
2008 Mini Cooper S
2010 RR Sport
2010 Vespa 125LX
2014 Fuji Race bike
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
GT4
Nordschleife
Nordschleife


Joined: 08 Nov 2008
Posts: 30192
Location: Hertfordshire and Hampshire


PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freddie44 wrote:
Just buy a 997.1 GT3 right now and be done... Grin

You'll thank me in the long run!! Smile


+1

Never to be repeated.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Richyd
Watkins Glen


Joined: 04 Feb 2011
Posts: 2201
Location: Sunny Tunny Wells


PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+2
_________________
2016 GT4
1997 993 C2S
2015 Macan S

ex - 2009 997.2 GT3 CS
ex - 2006 997.1 GT3
ex - 1997 993 Carrera 4
ex - 2006 987 Boxster S
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   All times are GMT - 12 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4
Page 4 of 4

 
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum