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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not doing it for me, function overcoming form I'd say...looks a bit better on the move, but agree with earlier comments, reminds me a bit of a Jensen Interceptor or more modern cayman/mazda R8 hybrid, even a Scimitar! Also, the shape of the hatchback around those (cayman-like) rear light clusters, looks way too unnecessary. I reckon you'll be able to pick up a few year old one for peanuts in the near future.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am really not sure at all. I agree that the rear looks dangerously close to a Crossfire - cue Clarkson squatting dog comments!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chauch wrote:
I am really not sure at all. I agree that the rear looks dangerously close to a Crossfire - cue Clarkson squatting dog comments!


I actually take that comment back - the reason the Crossfire looks like that is because of its short wheelbase and it ends up all out of proportion. I think the Panamera gets away with it personally.

I actually think they've done a really good job and it's not too dissimilar to the 928 in some proportions. As I said earlier, this really does remind me of the Jensen Interceptor and in my book there's nothing wrong with that Smile

(and I bet it will be a damn sight more reliable than it's nearest competitor in spirit, price, and performance - the Quattroporte!) Wink
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope I am wrong( I really do) but does anyone else think the new Porsche is going to flop badly in these economic times?

If I was Mr Porsche I'd mothball the thing(and refine it further) until the economies of the world are ready and willing to buy it.

With 10 billion in the bank it's not as if Porsche need to risk another bloody nose(re the 928). Question Question
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wizard993 wrote:
I hope I am wrong( I really do) but does anyone else think the new Porsche is going to flop badly in these economic times?


Nope - personally I think that the main market will be former Cayenne buyers who have realised that they don't need a 4x4 after all (the market for which is tanking big time as a consequence).

By definition they are not sensitive to either cost, depreciation or (particularly) looks too, so it could well do okay...

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

like others, i have to say it looks a lot better than i was expecting and actually rather good from some angles. It's certainly very distinctive and 'very Porsche'. I think they will have no trouble selling them - even in todays harsh times - and probably to the expense of other makes such as Maserati and Aston. I imagine it will be seriously good to drive too. Am a bit worried it will actually take sales from the lower model 911s as well...
 
  
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It just got absolutely pelted(big time) on Top Gear by all three presenters....they can't all be wrong can they Question Question

I will be amazed if it makes it in the current market dynamics. nooo nooo
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wizard993 wrote:
It just got absolutely pelted(big time) on Top Gear by all three presenters....they can't all be wrong can they Question Question

I will be amazed if it makes it in the current market dynamics. nooo nooo


They all had similar view on the Cayenne IIRC...and that's not turned out too bad!

Also, funny how they picked the least flattering image to show....

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree it's a little "awkward" from some (most) angles...

It could have been much better with just a few small changes.

I did a little 'shopping to see what could be achieved...

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Even though the modifications are subtle, I think the result is more balanced and more coherent.

Your critiques and suggestions are welcome...

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This car is going to bomb big time. Remember this conversation!

With a price tag of £90k it'll be worth about 45 grand after 2 years or even less. People won't be able to give them away!! I do hope I am wrong though for Porsches sake. But they need to realise that in current market conditions they won't sell many of these!
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Porsche Panamera Debut Delayed until Shanghai Auto Show in April

Porsche is delaying the launch of its new four-door sports coupe the Panamera until the Shanghai Auto Show next April. The model was due to premier at the Geneva Motor Show in March.

The luxury sports car maker said the delay is a reflection of the growing importance of China and other Asian markets for its future sales. Or maybe, as European and US car sales are tumbling fast, it's a good idea to go looking for a market to help maintain some stability in your global sales and a continuously growing economy like China's is just that.

Porsche sales in China doubled for fiscal year 2007-2008 compared to the previous year to 8,190 units. In the same period, North American and European sales were down sharply and fell 5.4 percent in Germany, Porsche's domestic market.

Still, this is Porsche, and you can bet the Panamera, like all Porsche models, will be both a sales success and lead to bulky profits for the Stuttgart automaker.

Porsche is in incredibly good shape financially. For the fiscal year that ended September 30th, Porsche made a profit of 8.6 billion euros on revenues of 7.5 billion.

Wait...that doesn't make sense. How can you make more money in profits than you take in in revenue from car sales?

Well, apparently Porsche made several billions of dollars on its buying and trading of VW stock. Do not ask us how this works exactly. Something to do with sending VW shares soaring in moves that killed short-sellers, if that makes any sense to you. But Porsche made heaps and heaps of cash on it while some people lost an equivalent amount in the form of metaphorical shirts and they are desperately, insanely angry about it. Capitalism says too bad to them.

Porsche will maintain its sales target for the Panamera at 20,000 units per year.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to admit, I am taking to it... Paper Bag Not sure I go a bundle on the brown colour above- clearly the 1970's Jensen/Scimitar irony not lost on Porsche!

Interesting that Porsche have delayed it though til April. I'd be amazed if Weideking got it wrong- after all, the Cayenne was not universally liked, but has been a massive seller.

The hatch will make it much more practical- we have an Audi A8, and I get frustrated sometimes with the boot- the Panamera's hatch, with split fold rear seats will make it a great all-rounder, and give it a USP.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redback59 wrote:
I agree it's a little "awkward" from some (most) angles...

It could have been much better with just a few small changes.

I did a little 'shopping to see what could be achieved...

Original (for reference):


Modified:


Even though the modifications are subtle, I think the result is more balanced and more coherent.

Your critiques and suggestions are welcome...

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I can only see the bigger wheels and the front door shutline's moved, but the whole thing does look better somehow... as you say, subtle mods. What else did you do?
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Porsche Panamera interior caught in color

Someone has scanned a photo of what looks to be a production-level Panamera interior. The fact that it's dressed up in brown leather probably will probably be lipstick on a warthog for those who revile it in pre-production form. Of course the number of buttons has been a major item of discussion, but there aren't that many more buttons compared to the 911 or Cayenne - they've simply been rearranged.

Other changes: it gets at least one real cupholder (compared to the 911), the IP and controls to the left of the steering wheel have been more integrated into the flow of the dash, and the 911-type gauges seem to be topped by a trim panel like the one around the Cayenne cluster.
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