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1997 Porsche 993 Carrera 2

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Buyer & Seller Fraud Protection Reply with quote

Fraud warning for all.

We have been aware of a fraudster using the username "rennner_joee"

Who has send a classic Fraudster email as below. The account of this user has been terminated.

It is a sad fact in this modern age, that fraudsters operate, therefore if you are buying or selling please be aware of the "Fraud Protection" advice in the following 911uk pages.

Buyer & Seller Fraud Protection

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Dear ,
Thanks for the mail,so i will like to have you read carefully this mail,and then mail me back,so we can concludes the transaction withing the shortest time.

On the delivery,my Shipping/Freight agent will do that along with you at your place,so never mind about that,and my offer is the sum of £xx,xxx
On this note,i wants you to now send me the following details for the payment:
1. FULL NAME .................................................
2. HOME ADDRESS .........................................
CITY.............................................................
STATE.........................................................
ZIP/POSTAL CODE.......................................
COUNTRY....................................................
3. OFFICE/HOME PHONE.................................
MOBILE PHONE............................................

I wants you to know that the actual payment will comes on a cheque of sum of money higher than your asking price,been the refunds from the car i earlier buy and was found to be in bad condition than i was informed before i paid.

But due to company's policy,account and book keeping,this refunds could only be issued and paid out in one fold by a single cheque,hence why i will directs that the company footing the refunds issued out my refunds to you.

You will then have to cash the cheque from your bank,after then deducts you own sum,and my Shipping/Freight agent will come for the pick-up,as it's the Freight agency policy delivery to my final destination of need.

Once you could assured me of the readiness to work with the Shipping/Freight agent after you have cashed the payment and deducted you own money,then,you should be assured of the payment in due date.

Thanks and waiting to hear from you back.
Renner Joe
Phones: +44-703-186-0146 (calls only )
+44-702-402-5139 (calls only )

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Doc Croc
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Joined: 23 Oct 2005
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Location: Aberdeen, Scotland


PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Scam alert - affecting those selling Porsche Reply with quote

Apologies if this has been covered before, but I thought it was worth a post.

I've had my 996 C4 up for sale on the classified on the site for the last couple of weeks. On Friday 19 Sep I received the following private message from a Joe Renner (a new member with no posts at that time). The message read as follows:

Dear,
Just saw your advert for this ITEM meant for sale.
Please mail me back if you stil have it for sale.

Also,send me answers to these questions:
1.REASON WHY SELLING ?
2.MECHANICAL HISTORY ?
3.ANY MORE PICTURES TO VIEW ?

4.LAST ASKING PRICE ?

Thanks and get back to me without delay.
RENNER JOE

Phones: +44-703-186-0146
+44-702-402-5139
Email: rennner_joee@yahoo.co.uk


The wording was a little strange, but it appeared genuine enough so I dutifully replied. Then Monday 22 Sep I received the following email:

Dear ,
Thanks for the mail,so i will like to have you read carefully this mail,and then mail me back,so we can concludes the transaction withing the shortest time.

On the delivery,my Shipping/Freight agent will do that along with you at your place,so never mind about that.
On this note,i wants you to now send me the following details for the payment:
1. FULL NAME .................................................
2. HOME ADDRESS .........................................
CITY.............................................................
STATE.........................................................
ZIP/POSTAL CODE.......................................
COUNTRY....................................................
3. OFFICE/HOME PHONE.................................
MOBILE PHONE............................................

I wants you to know that the actual payment will comes on a cheque of sum of money higher than your asking price,been the refunds from the car i earlier buy and was found to be in bad condition than i was informed before i paid.

But due to company's policy,account and book keeping,this refunds could only be issued and paid out in one fold by a single cheque,hence why i will directs that the company footing the refunds issued out my refunds to you.

You will then have to cash the cheque from your bank,after then deducts you own sum,and my Shipping/Freight agent will come for the pick-up,as it's the Freight agency policy delivery to my final destination of need.

Once you could assured me of the readiness to work with the Shipping/Freight agent after you have cashed the payment and deducted you own money,then,you should be assured of the payment in due date.

Thanks and waiting to hear from you back.
Renner Joe
Phones: +44-703-186-0146 (calls only )
+44-702-402-5139 (calls only )


Fishy doesn't begin to describe it - I've no intention of replying as it's clearly a scam of some sort. I'm pretty sure if I did I'd get an email back requesting bank details.

Stay safe out there!

If anyone genuine's looking for a nice 996 C4 though...
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Wattie
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens is you refund the difference in cash, and then he stops the cheque (yes you can stop them up to two weeks after it was presented apparently!)

So you end up with no car, no money, and have actually paid him some cash as well wack
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO you would have to be as tick as da too short planks to be dupeid in dis way man ! Floor

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Scam alert - affecting those selling Porsche Reply with quote

Doc Croc, thanks for your post

The site became aware of this issue on the 19th and account of this user as been terminated on the same day.

It appears that they may have sent emails to many sellors on the site, before we were able to deal with this account.

We have also posted up in the For Sale section a thread on this matter.

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=38740

Please refer to the Fraud Protection pages for more advice
http://911uk.com/template.php?page=59

regards
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kryten
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And you'll find those phone numbers have magically stopped working...
 
  
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Location: Chavley South South


PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kryten wrote:
And you'll find those phone numbers have magically stopped working...


and no doubt pay as you go too Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He contacted me about my car, but never got as far as asking me for any information. Well he did and I just said see my profile in the Owners Garage and he never contacted me again. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff wrote:
and no doubt pay as you go too Smile


NO! Its a common mistake to make to think that these are mobile numbers.

Numbers starting 070 are personal numbers which allow the owner of the number to redirect the call ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

Even apparently landline phone numbers are no longer any guarantee that the person you are speaking to is where the number appears to come from, so be especially careful!
 
  
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