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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

great day on the rollers yesterday,

mine showed 388bhp in standard trim, so very pleased with that indeed.

on turbo showed 604bhp, wow that is loads.

CSL M3 very respectable 356bhp, not shy at all, and great looking in the flesh, the star of the day was the 997GT3 RS, with Glen showing 445 bhp and Peters showing 435, now Glens is remapped, and Peters isnt, so very impressive factory figures esp as they quote 415 std.

Crystal ball time, met a guy who had a lovely 964RS in mint condition LHD, has owned it for 6 years, when he bought it, in the place he got it from, there was for sale a guards 993RS LHD for 32k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



wait for it

2 x 1973 2.7RS touring, for 32k & 36k, today way North of 100k for these cars,

wish I had a crystall ball, and for a mint 964RS 6 years ago 25k, wow




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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how was the torque ?

very much different from 285 lbs/ft ?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RS prices have cartainly gone ape sh*t in the past few yrs. Only a yr or so ago when I started looking at 993RS, they were "only" in the low 40's for a decend one, now it's approaching mid 50's !!!

The 964 RS has been going up steadily over the yrs, but the 993RS had been level until a couple of yrs ago and then it just went mad!

I don't think, or hope, they'll go the way 2.7RS did, 'cos I still want to see them on track and roads. The later RS are built much stronger esp in terms of body panels, and so hopefully the total number existing won't dwindle like the 2.7RS.

I'm just glad I'm now finally on the RS ladder, not that I'll want to climb any higher!


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by Speed Freak on 04 February 2007

great day on the rollers yesterday,

mine showed 388bhp in standard trim, so very pleased with that indeed.

on turbo showed 604bhp, wow that is loads.

CSL M3 very respectable 356bhp, not shy at all, and great looking in the flesh, the star of the day was the 997GT3 RS, with Glen showing 445 bhp and Peters showing 435, now Glens is remapped, and Peters isnt, so very impressive factory figures esp as they quote 415 std.

Crystal ball time, met a guy who had a lovely 964RS in mint condition LHD, has owned it for 6 years, when he bought it, in the place he got it from, there was for sale a guards 993RS LHD for 32k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



wait for it

2 x 1973 2.7RS touring, for 32k & 36k, today way North of 100k for these cars,

wish I had a crystall ball, and for a mint 964RS 6 years ago 25k, wow




Great day out Daz, great to catch up...



that's about right for a standard MKII, what fuel were you running ??



Very pleased with my result, alas, it means i have no excuses for being slow at Oulton this Saturday now Confused

Some pics of the day
















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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenn, thanks for a great day out. Nice to meet some old and new faces! Smile

Here are some pics:











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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where was this day?

why didn't I know about it?
Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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where was this day?

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Secret handshake day Poon, if yer know wot I mean Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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where was this day? why didn't I know about it? Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad


It was a Pure GT Rolling road day, run by me...

didn't want to overstep the mark by plastering it all over this forum Sad



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by poon on 04February2007where was this day?

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Secret handshake day Poon, if yer know wot I mean Wink



oh well, if you not in the club! Sad

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my torque was just over 300

poon, if u want to join use me as a reference , my handle is daz,

same sort of crowd as here just not restricted to porsche,

best two forums on the web pgt & here:)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Secret handshake day Poon, if yer know wot I mean Wink


oh well, if you not in the club! Sad


you're fine here fella ! Wink



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was running 97 rated fuel, and apparentley, if I was running 99, my bhp would have been closer 400bhp,

not bad for std car


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some interesting results there Daz. Glen must be well chuffed - those are amazing figures!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daz, how are they working out those bhp figures you quoted? I guess that those are estimated flywheel bhp figures and not at the wheels? Just wondered what percentage they figured in for transmission losses - did they give you actual dyno output?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

have to ask Ade those sorts of questions, as I honestly dont know I am afraid

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those figures are estimated flywheel figures.
Erm, I'm not a dyno expert, but there's a LOT of computer calculations going on to interpret the output figures. They run that dyno in "Shootout" mode which is pretty much PHD (Push Here Dummy) for the dyno operator. No adjustments for intake temps/atmospheric temps etc. If the dyno is inaccurate, then at least it was consistently inaccurate! Confused


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Sounds like you guys had a great day out at the dyno!


The material on Wikipedia is worth a read on the subject nineoneone has raised:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_power#Effective_horsepower_.28ehp.29_.2F_True_horsepower_.28thp.29


btw - how did the dyno cope with the 4x4 Porker Turbos and the like?


all the best


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