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eabeukes
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1999 Porsche 996 Carrera 2

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:40 pm    Post subject: Are 996's selling? Reply with quote

After some shocking quotes this afternoon for a new Variocam unit, I'm looking to possibly make a sale. The 996's on the classifieds don't seem to be shifting, and even the ones that do seem to be priced sub-10k.
Has anyone noticed otherwise? Mine's had all (Triggers broom nearly)'work done and tallying up the invoices I think I'll lose a few thousand at current prices.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you've got a combination of a poor time of year for people to be buying sports cars, and continued uncertainty from the political situation.

Prices for these cars are going to come under a lot of pressure as formerly more expensive stuff is also pushed down.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any details on what is wrong with your Variocam?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're looking to sell it while it needs expensive repairs you are going to take a double hiding surely?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s dead out there.
Mainly just the time of year but we’ll see in spring time I guess.

I agree though, trying to sell a faulty car is never a good idea.

PS. A mate of mine paid £230k for a Huracan Perf a year ago and he’s getting offers of £170k now.
Now that’s what you call taking a hit. He’s just gonna keep it instead. Most folk I know are taking this approach at the moment. If you don’t need to sell, DON’T.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we'll know a lot more in summer, which isn't that far away really.

Also gives you the time to save up to get the Variocam fixed, which means you'd get more for the car if you did sell it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think anything is selling last year I tried to sell 3 of my cars and only got low ball offers from people who had not come to see them

This year I probably will need to sell my 996 but given it's not worth a lot right now it would probably be better to keep it until the market picks up. That said will the 996 ever be that sort after? I'm not so sure

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking at buying a 996 for a couple of years before I bought my 997 last year, and some of the same cars are still for sale now that were for sale back then. Some disappear off the for sale sites for a month or two then reappear again. With quite a few 997s dipping below £20k now it has to push the price of 996s down. Only turbos, GTs and very nice 4Ss are worth £20k or more in my opinion, Carreras struggle to sell much above £13k unless very low mileage.

This is only my take on the current market, I know some will disagree Dont know
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

996 prices are unbelievable IMHO for the car you are getting. Yes they have their achilles heels but so do many other cars. A ‘bomb proof’ engine rebuild can be north of 10k but no one seems to baulk at an air cooled engine rebuild.

I’ve said before I’d love an a/c but its probably 40k plus contingency whereas the 996 is half that.


I’m not owning to make money but at some point 996’s will go up, wont they??
 
  
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kas750
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Are 996's selling? Reply with quote

eabeukes wrote:
After some shocking quotes this afternoon for a new Variocam unit, I'm looking to possibly make a sale. The 996's on the classifieds don't seem to be shifting, and even the ones that do seem to be priced sub-10k.
Has anyone noticed otherwise? Mine's had all (Triggers broom nearly)'work done and tallying up the invoices I think I'll lose a few thousand at current prices.
Sad frustrated


The irony of your signature OP.
 
  
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Marky911
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who knows if we’ll ever see price rises again. By the time we would, Will the cars be taxed off the road? But remember, cars never used to go up in value. Wink

There’s some sort of environmental story on every news bulletin these days so the powers that be clearly want to brain wash us. Drive a petrol car down your local high street (another soon to be extinct feature of old) in 20 years time and you’ll probably get pelted with tomatoes. Grin

Basically, buy the car you like and enjoy driving it. I think we are safe for another decade but after that who knows.

Re 997s pushing 996 prices down, they will in the shorter term as a lot of people just want the newest 911 they can get for their money, especially if it’s to be a daily driver.
For me personally if I had a £20k budget I’d be buying an early 996 C2 manual coupe, with aerokit ideally.
A 911 for me is a weekend toy only, hence I want involvement and no gadgets.
I don’t want any screens, sat nav or other stuff in a weekend fun car.

As I say though it depends on your intended use. Thumb

996s are amazing value for money though. We are biased on here but that’s because we’ve sampled other cars and know good these are.
What else can you get for £15k-£20k that looks great, sounds great and drives great and is as happy as dally driver as it is a weekend toy.
They are brilliant cars and you’ll struggle to get better steering feel from anything this side of a Caterham.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Are 996's selling? Reply with quote

kas750 wrote:


The irony of your signature OP.



Grin

I’d missed that.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somebody out there must be selling 996’s as every other week Marcus Walker has got another one Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is he buying Carreras now?
I knew he had a Mk2 GT3 but that was the last I saw of the scruffy old git. Grin
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought one a few weeks ago so they are selling. Overpriced stuff will not sell though as with any make of car. Unfortunately what people on forums think their car is worth and what it will actually sell for are seldom the same. Price price price, it's all down to price.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There’s been a decent amount of new 996 Carrera owners pop up on here of late (check out newbie area) so some must be selling Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shall probably be selling my C2 at some stage this year. Low miles and lots of work done. I've no idea what it is worth, but I'd like to think that someone would be prepared to pay a little more for a really good car. If you merely buy a 996 just because it is cheap, be prepared to spend... Plenty of 10k-14k cars around if you don't mind high miles, tired paintwork, sketchy history. Tip, Cab etc.
My view is to buy the best you can afford and have a decent starting point.
Really good/desirable spec cars will become more difficult to find as time goes on and you'd like to think that their values will hold up.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if we're entering a new era for used Porsche prices. One where they behave like other mass produced cars; i.e. they depreciate.
I mean, is there any logical reason why a Porsche 996 Carrera shouldn't depreciate? OK for rare models like a GT2 or something perhaps, but not for the mainstream cars I'd have thought. Supply and demand and all that.

And of course, you're buying a car that's typically 20 years old, so unless the previous owner has spent heavily, your new 996 will surely deplete your wallet. And if 996's are anything like my 993, parts prices can be outrageous.
And then there's the M96 engine problems that afflict the 996 to some extent.

I think this "prices will go up, won't they?" reasoning may no longer be relevant for any Porsche outside of halo models.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a newbie and bought mine in November.
I think I did pretty well in regards to price though buying a cab at that time of year does help.
There are issues to address but the main concern (for me) was a documented engine rebuild around 2000 miles before I bought it.
It's not a Hartech rebuild but a reputable indie who's provided an extensive list of the parts replaced/work carried out.
As an ex mechanic 90% of the remaining work can be done without the labour costs - I don't know if I'd have made the same decision if I wasn't so hands on.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been quite a few 12k coupe/manual cars recently WITH the IMS/RMS done and in good order. Even a nice 4s at 13k with all the work done. The problem is most people want their run of the mill cooking 996 to be worth 20k and in most cases they are not. 12k in cash would buy you decent 996 imo. Just my opinion and we all have one lol.

On a plus side I think they are rock bottom at the moment and I think they will slowly climb as the bags of crap are broken for parts. Same with M3's etc.
 
  
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