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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im still looking for a DSC for the Gen1 if anyone has for sale ??

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a DSC module that I bought in the group-buy here for a 997.1 Turbo but it’s never even been fitted to a car!!

Simply taken out of the packaging to check everything is there then put straight back in the box.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a DSC module that I bought in the group-buy here for a 997.1 Turbo but it’s never even been fitted to a car!!

Simply taken out of the packaging to check everything is there then put straight back in the box.

PM me reasonable offers if interested. Thumb


Thanks, but wont work on a Gen1 Carrera S

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-- 997 -- wrote:
Legzr1 wrote:
I have a DSC module that I bought in the group-buy here for a 997.1 Turbo but it’s never even been fitted to a car!!

Simply taken out of the packaging to check everything is there then put straight back in the box.

PM me reasonable offers if interested. Thumb


Thanks, but wont work on a Gen1 Carrera S

Cheers

J


It will if you also buy an accelerometer from 9e for c£250 + fitting.

It would probably be worth your while as given the additional hassle of fitting these units to a 997.1 I doubt that anyone will bother to get it uninstalled before sale so you might have a long wait.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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-- 997 -- wrote:
Legzr1 wrote:
I have a DSC module that I bought in the group-buy here for a 997.1 Turbo but it’s never even been fitted to a car!!

Simply taken out of the packaging to check everything is there then put straight back in the box.

PM me reasonable offers if interested. Thumb


Thanks, but wont work on a Gen1 Carrera S

Cheers

J



It will if you also buy an accelerometer from 9e for c£250 + fitting.

It would probably be worth your while as given the additional hassle of fitting these units to a 997.1 I doubt that anyone will bother to get it uninstalled before sale so you might have a long wait.


Fitting an accel box into a wiring loom wouosnt be a problem, id fit a plug on it so if i decide to sell up for say.. 991 gen2 Grin ill simply unplug it and off !

Ok as for the Turbo DSC, Sorry but it wont work! Turbo gen1 and Turbo gen2 will work as they both the same, Carrera S gen1 and Carrera gen2 are different,

3 different versions, canbus speed is different , yes for the gen1 you will need the accel box and on the gen2 and turbo has them built in the loom.

The software of the 3 different versions are different to each other so it wont work, ill need the DSC from a Gen1.

Can buy it but will have to have the DSC box sent to the US to re-program is for the correct car as Ken dont have that technology as he said they wont allow that and will cost approx £250 if i remember.. is it will cost me more so not worth my while.. etc..


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry but it wont work! Turbo gen1 and Turbo gen 2 will work as they bith the same, carrera s gen 1 and carrera gen 2 are different,

3 different versions, canbus speed is different , yes for the Gen1 you will need the accel box on gen2 and turbo has them built in the loom.

The software of the 3 different versions arw different so it wont work, ill need the DSC from a Gen1.



The way I read the information from TPC is that the v1 box is the same but the configuration of the accelerometer is different.

https://www.tpcracing.com/product/dsc-sport-v3-controller/

As long as you get the right accelerometer the v1 box will work. Dont know
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry but it wont work! Turbo gen1 and Turbo gen 2 will work as they bith the same, carrera s gen 1 and carrera gen 2 are different,

3 different versions, canbus speed is different , yes for the Gen1 you will need the accel box on gen2 and turbo has them built in the loom.

The software of the 3 different versions arw different so it wont work, ill need the DSC from a Gen1.



The way I read the information from TPC is that the v1 box is the same but the configuration of the accelerometer is different.

https://www.tpcracing.com/product/dsc-sport-v3-controller/

As long as you get the right accelerometer the v1 box will work. Dont know


Maybe Ken and the guys from TPC racing Lied to me after speaking to them?

I had many offers for a DSC from a turbo as cheap as £650, why didnt i buy it?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe Ken and the guys from TPC racing Lied to me after speaking to them?

I had many offers for a DSC from a turbo as cheap as £650, why didnt i buy it?



Confused

I was only trying to help.

Personally I'd ask Ken the question again but that's up to you. bye
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-- 997 -- wrote:
T8 wrote:
-- 997 -- wrote:


Sorry but it wont work! Turbo gen1 and Turbo gen 2 will work as they bith the same, carrera s gen 1 and carrera gen 2 are different,

3 different versions, canbus speed is different , yes for the Gen1 you will need the accel box on gen2 and turbo has them built in the loom.

The software of the 3 different versions arw different so it wont work, ill need the DSC from a Gen1.



The way I read the information from TPC is that the v1 box is the same but the configuration of the accelerometer is different.

https://www.tpcracing.com/product/dsc-sport-v3-controller/

As long as you get the right accelerometer the v1 box will work. Dont know


Maybe Ken and the guys from TPC racing Lied to me after speaking to them?

I had many offers for a DSC from a turbo as cheap as £650, why didnt i buy it?

J


On pages 3 and 4 of this thread, and further repeats of the same information later on, the explanation seems reasonably clear what is required for 997.1 and 997.2,
Would it be possible that you may have misinterpreted the information rather than assert that you have been lied to by TPC and Ken?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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T8 wrote:
-- 997 -- wrote:


Sorry but it wont work! Turbo gen1 and Turbo gen 2 will work as they bith the same, carrera s gen 1 and carrera gen 2 are different,

3 different versions, canbus speed is different , yes for the Gen1 you will need the accel box on gen2 and turbo has them built in the loom.

The software of the 3 different versions arw different so it wont work, ill need the DSC from a Gen1.



The way I read the information from TPC is that the v1 box is the same but the configuration of the accelerometer is different.

https://www.tpcracing.com/product/dsc-sport-v3-controller/

As long as you get the right accelerometer the v1 box will work. Dont know


Maybe Ken and the guys from TPC racing Lied to me after speaking to them?

I had many offers for a DSC from a turbo as cheap as £650, why didnt i buy it?

J


On pages 3 and 4 of this thread, and further repeats of the same information later on, the explanation seems reasonably clear what is required for 997.1 and 997.2,
Would it be possible that you may have misinterpreted the information rather than assert that you have been lied to by TPC and Ken?


Ok, i know ken isnt lieing cos i spoke to him on a few occasions and was really helpful in explaining all this, what he said and what Tom said from TPC are exactly the same which is what i posted above, below is a copy of the Email sent from Tom at TPC, i researched this thoroughly...

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe Ken and the guys from TPC racing Lied to me after speaking to them?

I had many offers for a DSC from a turbo as cheap as £650, why didnt i buy it?



Confused

I was only trying to help.

Personally I'd ask Ken the question again but that's up to you. bye


Hahaaa, no worries matey Thumb shame there all different, had so many opportunities to buy for cheap but i couldnt touch them etc.....

Maybe i sell up and get a Turbo, this way i get the DCS for cheap.. Grin Grin

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--997-- I'd still ask the question of Ken again.

That e-mail from Tom Chan refers to "a different module" but I think he actually means that for purchase purposes the 997.1 requires a different package, i.e a module + an accelerometer.

The DSC website clearly states what is needed for a 997.1 Carrera.

https://www.dscsport.com/product/dsc-vplug-n-play/

The V1 is 'plug and play' for 997.1 Turbos and all Gen 2 cars.

For it to work on a 997.1 Carrera it just needs an accelerometer.

I'm pretty sure that there is no specific 997.1 controller.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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--997-- I'd still ask the question of Ken again.

That e-mail from Tom Chan refers to "a different module" but I think he actually means that for purchase purposes the 997.1 requires a different package, i.e a module + an accelerometer.

The DSC website clearly states what is needed for a 997.1 Carrera.

https://www.dscsport.com/product/dsc-vplug-n-play/

The V1 is 'plug and play' for 997.1 Turbos and all Gen 2 cars.

For it to work on a 997.1 Carrera it just needs an accelerometer.

I'm pretty sure that there is no specific 997.1 controller.


That’s how it reads to me too.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legzr1 wrote:
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--997-- I'd still ask the question of Ken again.

That e-mail from Tom Chan refers to "a different module" but I think he actually means that for purchase purposes the 997.1 requires a different package, i.e a module + an accelerometer.

The DSC website clearly states what is needed for a 997.1 Carrera.

https://www.dscsport.com/product/dsc-vplug-n-play/

The V1 is 'plug and play' for 997.1 Turbos and all Gen 2 cars.

For it to work on a 997.1 Carrera it just needs an accelerometer.

I'm pretty sure that there is no specific 997.1 controller.


That’s how it reads to me too.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Ken told me that the gen1 will need the accel box fitted to work, this i know!! the gen2 has the accel box fitted already aswell as turbo!, But im saying is the actual DSC pasm box has different software, there are 3 different softwares, this is why when ordering you give the car details so the correct type goes to you to fit to the car.

Turbo, Gen1 and Gen2 each one works on a different canbus speed.

If i fitted the gen2 or the turbo DSC with the accel.it wont work, has to be specific software type!

Hope that makes any sence.

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What Ken told me that the gen1 will need the accel box fitted to work, this i know!! the gen2 has the accel box fitted already aswell as turbo!, But im saying is the actual DSC pasm box has different software, there are 3 different softwares, this is why when ordering you give the car details so the correct type goes to you to fit to the car.

Turbo, Gen1 and Gen2 each one works on a different canbus speed.

If i fitted the gen2 or the turbo DSC with the accel.it wont work, has to be specific software type!

Hope that makes any sence.



I've pm'd Ken referring him to this thread.

My understanding was that the V1 was interchangeable between all 987/997 cars subject to an accelerometer also being fitted to normally aspirated Gen1 cars.

I've never heard about there being different software within the module itself but if that's true I'm more than happy to be educated. Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What Ken told me that the gen1 will need the accel box fitted to work, this i know!! the gen2 has the accel box fitted already aswell as turbo!, But im saying is the actual DSC pasm box has different software, there are 3 different softwares, this is why when ordering you give the car details so the correct type goes to you to fit to the car.

Turbo, Gen1 and Gen2 each one works on a different canbus speed.

If i fitted the gen2 or the turbo DSC with the accel.it wont work, has to be specific software type!

Hope that makes any sence.



I've pm'd Ken referring him to this thread.

My understanding was that the V1 was interchangeable between all 987/997 cars subject to an accelerometer also being fitted to normally aspirated Gen1 cars.

I've never heard about there being different software within the module itself but if that's true I'm more than happy to be educated. Thumb


Ok so with the 987 over to 997, that i dont know about, im refering to the 997 - Gen1, Gen2 and Turbo. Possibly may work but best ask ken on that am sure ken will enlighten it!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Essentially what has been said is correct. I think some of the problem is that the Sku used is more confusing - it would be better if they had a part number to indicate a different car.

So

997.1 Turbo and 997.2 Turbo (DSCv1) is interchangeable
997.1 is not interchangeable with 997.2
997.1 cars always need accel if non turbo.
997.1 non turbo is not interchangeable with 997.1 turbo and vise versa

Generally, but it is not always the case, 987.1 and 997.1 is interchangeable as is 987.2 and 997.2.

To be clear when we say interchangeable we mean that the firmware does not need to be updated. We cannot update the firmware - we have to send it back to TPC. However, the project file (configuration) may need to be changed which we can do. As an example a 991.1gt3 and 981 gt4 has the same firmware, but in order to swop from one to the other you need to update the dsc with the correct project file.

The reason we ask for the make / model registration is for the above. Also, we want to know the information because many times I will load a custom project file on to the unit supplied. The reason behind this is because we have found in the example of cab cars that the spring rates are softer than coupe generally and therefore the stock project file makes the car too soft especially on rebound. Again as another example 991.2 Carrera T has softer springs than say a 991.2 GTS/S so we make a change for that.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the clarification Ken - much obliged. Thumb

It'll certainly make the market for secondhand units clearer as I doubt that many will have taken the trouble to research as thoroughly as --997--.

Can you confirm that the unit fitted in my 997.1 Turbo is interchangeable with a 997.2 Carrera as it seems to work ok but came in a box bought directly from 9e marked 997.2. I queried it at the time and one of your team told me it didn't matter as it was the same unit.

Put simply. Are there just two versions?
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