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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:44 pm    Post subject: WTB: 997.1 GT3 Bucket Seats Reply with quote

Looking for some buckets for my 997.1 GT3 touring.
Let me know what you’ve got.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you seen these?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F113948308010

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F113948307987
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you after fixed or folding?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apollokre1d wrote:
Have you seen these?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F113948308010

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F113948307987


Folding carbon GT2 Available brand new for £5950 Thumb

http://www.carnewal.com/products/991;981/p91007/GT2-Seats-in-Black-Leather-:-991-version
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Apparently other colours are available?

 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

991 version? Will those fit in a 997?
*edit* add says it will Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apollokre1d wrote:
991 version? Will those fit in a 997?


In fact £5787.00. Pretty sure it works the other way round so I’d say yes Question
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apollokre1d wrote:
991 version? Will those fit in a 997?
*edit* add says it will Thumb


Come on you know you want them Grin
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
apollokre1d wrote:
991 version? Will those fit in a 997?
*edit* add says it will Thumb


Come on you know you want them Grin


Already have them in my car mate Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apollokre1d wrote:
991 version? Will those fit in a 997?
*edit* add says it will Thumb


Caveat : they may physically fit, but before dropping that amount of money I would want to know what the differences actually are. The 997 and 991 versions have different part numbers and the 997 ones are about £1k/pair more expensive, so if there are wiring or fitment differences for the rails or seat belt buckles then best to find out before rather than after. The only difference that I personally know is that on the 991 there was a cost option for seat heating which wasn't available on the 997.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair point Colin, I've always wondered why the 997 seats were more expensive than the ones in the 991 when they were not heated.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding from a bit of research is that the 991 ones are plug and play into a 997 (including heated function).

If you get ones from a LHD car you will need to switch some of the modules over.

The ones that Tiele advertise for the 997 are mainly 991 ones.

Only physical difference that I know of is that the bottom seat cushion on a 997 is in two parts, 991 is in three.

Not sure why the 997 ones are more expensive...... as far as I know they are not available new from Porsche so it is prob based on availability.

I have been doing my research but am trying to resist Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worth noting that the prices on Carnewal are export prices to outside of the EU so are ex VAT.

The price I have been quoted for a RHD pair of these with heating is approx £6700 delivered.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all your replies...
Forgot to mention it’s for my 997.1 GT3 in Australia.
I’m leaning towards the 997 GT2 Carbon Folding Buckets.
Quite interested in whether the 991 version is plug and play...nice saving.
It can be an insurance issue to replace with non-airbag seats here, so the folding buckets are a great option although very expensive compared to some very nice fixed after markets.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maph wrote:

If you get ones from a LHD car you will need to switch some of the modules over.


Not even that complicated.

On non-NAS spec vehicles (excluding USA and Canada cars, where passenger seat occupancy detection systems can complicate matters) the only difference between LHD and RHD sets of seats is that the seat belt 'not fastened' warning system is fitted to the driver-side seat only.

So if you want to fit seats from a LHD car to a RHD vehicle, (or vice-versa) you just need to swap over the seat-mounted buckles and associated wiring, which comprises a lead and a modular plug moulding which simply locates inside the main electrical connector housing under each seat.

I covered some of this back in 2018 on a thread I had running on PH, as follows: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=230&t=1765948&i=0

There's a bit of skirmishing at the start, but the conclusions (and the "how to" bit) starts from 19th September.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

short-shift wrote:
maph wrote:

If you get ones from a LHD car you will need to switch some of the modules over.


Not even that complicated.

On 991 generation cars of all types (and on non-NAS spec 997 generation vehicles, so excluding 997 generation USA and Canada cars, where passenger seat occupancy detection systems can complicate matters) the only difference between LHD and RHD sets of seats is that the seat belt 'not fastened' warning system is fitted to the passenger-side seat only.

So if you want to fit seats from a LHD car to a RHD vehicle, (or vice-versa) you just need to swap over the seat-mounted buckles and associated wiring, which comprises a lead and a modular plug moulding which simply locates inside the main electrical connector housing under each seat.

I covered some of this back in 2018 on a thread I had running on PH, as follows: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=230&t=1765948&i=0

There's a bit of skirmishing at the start, but the conclusions (and the "how to" bit) starts from 19th September.

James


Thanks James, I read your thread on PH at the time, knew something needed swapping over but could not remember what Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double post.....
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