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318touring
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:59 pm    Post subject: 997 cruise control retrofit - when not possible Reply with quote

Just a quick question to members here: have you ever heard where retrofitting a cruise control, with the right parts of course, on a 997 is not possible or fails?

I brought my car to the indy, who only has Durametric and PIWIS 1, and they couldn't activate the function. I'm bringing the car to the OPC next week but want to make sure that there isn't a 997 model which wasn't built to take in a cruise control.

The problem in NZ is that there aren't a lot of 911s which means even my OPC might never have retotrofitted cruise control in a 997 before! I want to avoid the conversation where they are hesitant or even not wanting to do it because they don't know how.

I'm planning to give the instructions provided by Richard Hamilton on another board as it is quite clear and simple.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve never heard of it. OPC retrofitted it to my 997.2. I remember they didn’t want to do my 996, but even that proved possible for my Indy.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They just don't know what they are doing, ofcourse it is possible. Maybe you need PIWIS2.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poker2009 wrote:
They just don't know what they are doing, ofcourse it is possible. Maybe you need PIWIS2.


Exactly, as PIWIS1 only goes up to 996.

Good to hear this confirmed from the others.

The indy has never done this on a 997 before.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should take 2 minutes with a PIWIS2!

I also turned off the seat belt warning tone when I had mine done!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poker2009 wrote:
It should take 2 minutes with a PIWIS2!

I also turned off the seat belt warning tone when I had mine done!


Was yours done by an OPC?

I'll be supplying this set of instructions to the OPC, https://www.renntech.org/topic/47997-cruise-control-retrofit-problem/?do=findComment&comment=264273
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I did it several years ago, and a friendly chap on this forum had PIWIS2 and did it for me.

Not to be a wet blanket, but after all the effort I hardly ever use it, still it is a "nice to have" option! It just sort of completes the setup with what should have been four stalks in the first place.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poker2009 wrote:
No, I did it several years ago, and a friendly chap on this forum had PIWIS2 and did it for me.

Not to be a wet blanket, but after all the effort I hardly ever use it, still it is a "nice to have" option! It just sort of completes the setup with what should have been four stalks in the first place.


Ah, that was handy.

I use cruise control all the time, on my old 996 as well as on my wife's BMW.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well then it is "must have" for you! Good luck, you will have it sorted soon.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poker2009 wrote:
Well then it is "must have" for you! Good luck, you will have it sorted soon.


Thanks, hopefully it will be painless, the OPC is going to call me on Monday to discuss this.

I've got a 1500 kms trip coming up, it'll be very handy to set the speed and just drive knowing that I'll exactly be at whatever speed I set.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I physically fitted my cruise control and coded it with my piwis2 clone. It was really easy and I cannot believe there is a 997 that doesn’t support it.

Its likely the old piwis1/durametric that couldnt do it.

If I remember correctly it needs to be set in 2x places from the software.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be possible on any 997.
The issue with 996 was the early ones were not 'e-gas' ie electronic throttle.
All 997s are electronic.

I recall there are 2 places you need to code cruise too.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had mine done at the OPC.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks but nothing is showing in the page apart from cookies information.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure why the link didn’t work.
Here is the part number

Cruise control

Automatic cruise control with speed range from 19 to 150 mph (30 to 240 km/h).

Part number: 997 044 903 00

Available for:
911 Carrera 911 Carrera Cabriolet 911 Carrera S More Models...
Price including fitment and painting from *
£ 552.00 incl. 20% VAT
£ 460.00 excl. 20% VAT
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others have said. I had my cruise retro fitted by an indi, they coded it and all working good. Durametrics cant do it, you need Piwis and it really is a straight forward 5 minute job to switch it on.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick update, all done by OPC.

Interesting bonus, now when I put the car into manual mode, the computer will tell me when to shift up by displaying a triangle above the speed display in the center module.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slackster wrote:
I physically fitted my cruise control and coded it with my piwis2 clone. It was really easy and I cannot believe there is a 997 that doesn’t support it.

Its likely the old piwis1/durametric that couldnt do it.

If I remember correctly it needs to be set in 2x places from the software.


So ive started to look into this for my 997.1

Slackster - may I ask what pisis2 clone you are using Wink

Ive seen the OEM kit on Parr for £325, then they will program it for £60, or fit and program for £180.

I much prefer to do things myself where I can, also Parr are not close.

Looks like a cost effective upgrade for my daily thumbsup
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a VXDIAG unit and I bought the Laptop HDD with PIWIS2 pre-installed that i fitted into a spare lenovo laptop.

works a treat, never had any issues.

http://www.allscanner.com/?page_id=8917&lang=en
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slackster wrote:
I've got a VXDIAG unit and I bought the Laptop HDD with PIWIS2 pre-installed that i fitted into a spare lenovo laptop.

works a treat, never had any issues.

http://www.allscanner.com/?page_id=8917&lang=en


well, I have to say I have had zero success in understanding the site and how to purchase ??
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