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RUDDY
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part boredom and part preparation for the next 997 job , radiators, I spent the day refreshing my axle stands...

All the best
 



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C4Silver
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for sharing your hard work and attention to detail, I’ve spent over an hour reading every post and comment and marvelled at the pictures, I’m looking forward to seeing the car in the flesh at an upcoming event or show !

Is there any way you could put together a list of all assosciated clips and fasteners for the full frontal assault ? I’d like to tackle mine in the not too distant but as has happened in the past there’s always something that gets mangled or snapped in the refitting process,

Keep up the good work and please keep posting worship

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brownspeed
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm looking forward to your "haynes manual" detailed approach on swapping your rads out.
I've kept putting mine off as i'll have to do mine outside and the weather has been pants!
and i'm lazy of late
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RUDDY
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

C4Silver wrote:


Is there any way you could put together a list of all assosciated clips and fasteners for the full frontal assault ? I’d like to tackle mine in the not too distant but as has happened in the past there’s always something that gets mangled or snapped in the refitting process,


When I get round to doing the rads I’ll post a list of part numbers, there will definately be several parts listed that wouldnt be required in just a “failed” radiator swap as I’ve ordered basically everything associated with the rads and pipework , this wouldnt be the case with a leaking rad etc

Part of me want to get stuck into the job starting the next week or so but I’m hoping to do the end of season Porsche show in Germany organised by Ingo that does the Dinslaken show every May 1st. I’ve got my tunnel and hotels booked but its a toss between using the 997 or my wifes rough and ready boxster as the weather may not play ball in mid October.

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C4Silver
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The weather won’t play ball all thro the summer so October could be more miss than hit, I picked mine up about a month ago in some of the worst weather I’ve driven In, I drove back thro Whaley Bridge that weekend the dam looked like it was going to burst, and it rained pretty much every day after pick up including the 60 mile journey to have it serviced !

The rain isn’t so bad, it’s all the debris that’s washed off the fields into the roads that create the filth. For a trip to Germany though, to show off your engineering capability and dedication to keeping it all stock standard and tip top I’d take the elfer
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Hertsdriver
Nürburgring


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2004 Porsche 997 Carrera 2

PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brownspeed wrote:
i'm looking forward to your "haynes manual" detailed approach on swapping your rads out.
I've kept putting mine off as i'll have to do mine outside and the weather has been pants!
and i'm lazy of late


There's already a very good write up on this job in the FAQ here:
http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=86467&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
 
  
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RUDDY
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So this afternoon I got the car up on four stands and decided to make a start pulling parts off, I think it was down to pure boredom more than a need to make a start.

Anyway just a few images, nice to find original factory marking 84A on the front, paint code for Guards Red

With hindsight I should have got DG Porsche to vac the AC down when I was over there last week, I’ll have to find someone mobile to do it or just vent to atmosphere which I’d rather not do.

Cheers, Paul
 



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RUDDY
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So yesterday after a brief trip into Keswick so the mrs could buy a jacket, note , the lakes is not a place for a brief visit on a hot bank holiday weekend, it was swiftly back to continue removing parts.

With the a/c now vac’d down I first removed the condensors, of the four retaining bolts two were seized solid, yet again non compatable materials, steel into aluminium, as they were being replaced I simply cut the head off the bolt leaving the thread in the condensor and not damaging the a/c pipework.

Then I popped the two most visible and easily accessable hose clips on the crossover pipe and caught any coolant, I plan to change a couple of the lower hoses on the engine as well so it will probably end up with a full drain down at some point.

On the photo note the corrosion occurring on the hose sleeve, this end was into the plastic coupling behind the radiator.

It was then simply a case of disconnecting the electrical connections, always a pain imo, then pulling the rad packs from the car after removing the easily accesible nuts and bolts.

Working out in the sunshine, a rare occurance in the North, I further stripped the rads into their component parts, the plastic shrouds are nice and undamaged so they’ll get a good detailing, the actual metal brackets that carry the rads will be going for powder coating.

After that I seperated the ARB, coffin arm and control arm from the front subframe and began loosening the bolts in order to drop the frame out for vapour blasting, next job will be to break the hose connections at the rear of the subframe and unbolt the rack, I hope this allows the subframe to drop in one piece complete with attatched pipework.

That would have taken place today but my aching body is telling me to have a day off !!

All the best
 



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RUDDY
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back on it this afternoon, few nuts and bolts removed and out with the front subframe with the pipes still connected.

I was planning to re-use the plastic pipes but having now seen the corrosion on the metal sleeve in the connection I’m certain I wouldnt be 100% confident in them next time around so I’ve banged a pair on order.

I’ve now got a nice little collection of parts for my powder coater to be on with as well as blasting the subframe.

In the meantime I’ll give everything under the front end a good clean and polish, I’ll be checking the PAS pipework and hoping all’s well so a coat of ACF50 will be applied.

Cheers
 



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RUDDY
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now waiting for parts to complete the subframe part of the job, its looking a bit better though.

Cheers
 



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RUDDY
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest updates

Once all the brackets came back from powder coating I decided it was false economy not to change the plastic supply/return pipes so those were ordered.

I then had a few lazy weeks cleaning underneath the front, fuel tank and areas no one will ever see, ensured all the PAS pipes and fittings were corrosion free and treated them with ACF50, I also removed all the plastic undertrays, again cleaned everything and ensured all the brake and A/C pipes were well protected.

Then it was a case of refitting everything and filling the coolant system with new Porsche spec antifreeze, couple of days running the car up to temp while still on stands and venting via the rads and the burp valve, I also added the third rad kit.

I bought the retro fit cruise kit from Porsche and installed that , however although my Foxwell NY520 will find certain locations to “turn on cruise” I must still be missing something as no joy as yet, the car will have to go for a geo and AC regas so I’ll ask DG Porsche to sort the programming.

Another change is to the wheels, I dug deep and ordered some Kerscher FX19’s from Germany, Fuch reps, really nice quality and come with all the TuV paperwork. I will probably offer my recently refinished Lobsters for sale.

The car is currently minus bumper and bonnet, I had the paintshop round with the paint camera, several images were taken and then they came back with several spray out cards to get the bedt match to the wings, although its very close I expect the wings will need blending to be 100%

Cheers
 



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely work. I have the kerschner wheels on my car in 18" and have been very happy with them.
Enjoy!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes its just about the little things, how do explain to the wife its not for using

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely wheels, just stunning all round. Bow
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome thread and amazing attention to detail. I must clear my garage so I can play with mine in comfort.

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RUDDY
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Small update on the 997

Got the car over to DG Porsche in North Shields to have the retrofit cruise kit activated, although my Foxwell NT520 could find several locations to “turn it on” obviously some coding was still missing. Took Gary just a few minutes to have the cruise light showing so I also asked him to programme the comfort setting on the fob to raise/lower the windows.

Having changed the A/C condensers we refgassed the system and as the front subframe had been out to do the cross over pipes a full geo set up was carried out.

I’m now torn whether I prefer the black lobsters to the Kerscher Fuchs reps, I think I’ll end up fitting new tyres to the lobsters and swapping about.

So, from deleting the pcm unit altogether and fitting the oem cubby I’ve gone full corcle and fitted a new Kenwood unit with Apple car play etc

I’ve done this mainly to facilitate nav and phone but the kids intoduced me to Spotify so I can listen to Barry Manilow and David Cassidy whilst cruising the Autobahn next Summer

The installl was very straight forward utilising a harness conversion kit from Incartec , it was plug n play

Next job is new heater control buttons, I’m hoping Santa delivers them, I’m dropping enough hints

Cheers, Paul
 



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul sterling effort as usual I missed your posts on stripping the rads which I am away to do on the turbo cant wait Sad I like the fuchs reps on the red car Thumb
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