Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:43 am Post subject: Hibernation
Hi All,
I have parked up my 360 in the garage for the winter. Are there some things I MUST do in order to avoid issues when I take it out. I will prob leave it in the garage until march. My C4S remains a daily regardless of the season.
I have charged up the battery and then used the battery cut off switch. And it has the indoor car cover on it. garage is not heated.
cheers _________________ Ferrari 360
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Fuel stabiliser? Tyre savers? (or increase the tyre pressure to prevent flat spots) _________________ 2000 Violet 911 Carrera 2 3.4
1990 Panther Black 944 Turbo
Mouse trap! There's a guy in YouTube had a 991 GT3 and mice chewed through his wiring loom. Cost $14,000 to replace it.
I've never used fuel stabilizers and I've been storing my cars for long periods for years. Not saying don't do it just that I have not done it and do not see any issues.
I do use wheel chocks, they are a faff but worth it.
That's it really:
clean it,
wheel chocks,
trickle charger,
mouse trap
cover it _________________ 911 GT2RS Build & 981 Boxster S
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chicb Silverstone
Joined: 01 Jun 2017 Posts: 130
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:38 am Post subject:
Wash & polish, ensure the brakes are completely dry to prevent discs rusting & pads gripping. Parking brake off. I also spray the discs with Bilt Hammer Atom mac which prevents disc rust, fill the petrol tank, add fuel stabiliser, add extra 10psi to tyres, connect Ctek & leave it permanently on. Indoor car cover. Car always starts first time come the spring.
Lidl have their Ctek clone on sale from tomorrow £13.99, gets good reviews.
My car has PCCBs so I’ve forgotten _________________ 911 GT2RS Build & 981 Boxster S
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pzero General
Joined: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 5517 Location: London
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:51 pm Post subject:
OP, there are several threads on here for laying one's Porsche up for winter. Not sure how different any of the advice would be for a Ferrari. Have you asked the question on a Ferrari forum? _________________ 991.1 Carrera GTS
MaxA Albert Park
Joined: 11 Oct 2015 Posts: 1671 Location: Helsinki
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:22 pm Post subject:
chicb wrote:
Wash & polish, ensure the brakes are completely dry to prevent discs rusting & pads gripping. Parking brake off. I also spray the discs with Bilt Hammer Atom mac which prevents disc rust, fill the petrol tank, add fuel stabiliser, add extra 10psi to tyres, connect Ctek & leave it permanently on. Indoor car cover. Car always starts first time come the spring.
Lidl have their Ctek clone on sale from tomorrow £13.99, gets good reviews.
This sounds like good advice, I use a fuel stabiliser in the boat (it has a Honda 4 stroke outboard) and that helps with the first start in the spring. _________________ 997.2 Carrera4S: white over blue, driven and tracked, seldom clean.
Zingari Brands Hatch
Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Posts: 13077 Location: Cheshire
993 Illuminati are masters of storage solutions albeit they normally store for 364 days allowing one day out for MOT/Service
I'm sure they'll be along soon. But for me:
Trickle charge or disconnect
Tyres to 50psi
ACF-50 to underside components
Cover and leave _________________ The game's afoot. It's time to put a bit of (Colini) stick about......964/993 wanted. Cash waiting. No dreamers
jonttt Long Beach
Joined: 20 Aug 2012 Posts: 6447 Location: Liverpool
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:04 pm Post subject:
I did a long post of here some years ago about all of the things you should do. The problem is that they are mainly based on what was best practice with much older vintage cars than these and different fuels, tyres, mechanicals, etc... etc.... I regularly lay my cars up for 6 months and I just do the following:
- clean them (make sure they are dry before storage)
- over inflate tyres by 2-4 PSI (stops flat spots), in 6 months time they will be around OEM PSI
- fuel to the brim
- fit an indoor breathable cover
- make sure there are pest control traps around the car
- put on a battery conditioner or disconnect the battery
- lock the car
Other things would depend on the location eg security and how damp it is eg some say you should close interior vents, some say you should open them , some say you should leave a window a little open, some say you should not , some say you should put dehumdifier gel inside.......bottom line is if the storage location is on the damp side them ensure the interior of the car is vented eg to me leave vents open / window ajar but security is then a consideration. Personally I just leave vents open and close the car up but I store in a secure vented (ie not damp) location.
Flat spots / fuel stabilizers etc.... are just not as big an issue for 6 months storage with modern products IMHO
ps I've just laid up my boxster in storage today, cleaned it, filled it, pumped it, covered it, locked it, plugged it in.......forget it for 6 months....job done
After 6 months I just uncover, unplug, start and drive it no prblem at all _________________ 1997 Porsche 911 993 C4S My Journal
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For a car of that value I would certainly consider a Carcoon or something similar. I don't tend to lay the 911 up in the winter, just be a bit more choosy about the days I take it out - I started using one last year and the car has certainly benefitted from it. I was a bit sceptical to be fair but it didn't cost cash as I did a swap for free storage for several months against a once used Carcoon with a lad who stores his classic car with me and had bought the wrong size. Now converted and have bought another smaller one for another car as well. Usual problem with rust forming on the discs has gone and it stops any form of dampness forming, starts better and the car doesn't get stale inside either. It's the frame type so its very straightforward to drive in and out - basically drive in, zip up leaving the breather zip open for a day until all the residual heat/damp had blown down and then zip shut. If you really want you can add extra dessicant bags as well but I don't think you would need them especially if you were just leaving the car for a long period. Even putting the car away soaking, it is generally dry within 12-15 hours with the recirculating fans on.
Anyway, might be an option. Cheers....Ian
Edit - Oh yes, will probably help with any vermin issues as well as they have to get through the plastic tent first! _________________ 40th Year Anniversary #698
Zingari Brands Hatch
Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Posts: 13077 Location: Cheshire
ps I've just laid up my boxster in storage today, cleaned it, filled it, pumped it, covered it, locked it, plugged it in.......forget it for 6 months....job done
Have you applied any Oil of Ulay to the carbonique _________________ The game's afoot. It's time to put a bit of (Colini) stick about......964/993 wanted. Cash waiting. No dreamers
cheshire911 Estoril
Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Posts: 3852
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:46 pm Post subject:
If it is a paddle shift F1, leave it in 1st gear (or manual car same)
Leave handbrake off.
CTEK trickle charger is a must - isolating the battery by switching the master switch to off will render the car without power for the alarm systems and central locking. So better to use a trickle charger - in any case leaving the battery isolated for so long may discharge it.
As its indoors, no need for waxoyl or such like - but a nice to have it for preventative maintenance in season.
I add an extra 5 PSI per corner.
Move it forwards and backwards from time to time - and I start my hibernating Italian and run to warm-up about twice in that period you are proposing moving it up and down the drive way (SORN'd) before putting it away.
Come March/April it will be fine to fire up on first turn. _________________ 996 2002 X50 Turbo Manual
"Once bitten; forever smitten"
jonttt Long Beach
Joined: 20 Aug 2012 Posts: 6447 Location: Liverpool
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:53 pm Post subject:
Zingari wrote:
jonttt wrote:
ps I've just laid up my boxster in storage today, cleaned it, filled it, pumped it, covered it, locked it, plugged it in.......forget it for 6 months....job done
Have you applied any Oil of Ulay to the carbonique
..... I would not touch the cheap stuff.......La-Mer all the way ....plus I like watching the cichlid fish tank they always have _________________ 1997 Porsche 911 993 C4S My Journal
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Lukec4s Newbie
Joined: 20 Jul 2018 Posts: 47 Location: Watford
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:14 pm Post subject:
Thanks everyone some good advice. I gave it a good clean, wax and covered. I have a trickle charger. I will add some psi to tyres and put a few mice traps around the underside which I had not considered.
Don’t get me started on the spiders in my garage 🤣 _________________ Ferrari 360
996 c4s
Clio 182 track car - it’s fun
HSC911 Long Beach
Joined: 23 Jul 2014 Posts: 6747 Location: Bedford
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:54 am Post subject:
Make sure you leave some sandals and socks hanging on the rear view mirror
cheshire911 Estoril
Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Posts: 3852
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:32 pm Post subject:
HSC911 wrote:
Make sure you leave some sandals and socks hanging on the rear view mirror
The vehicle is a Ferrari 360, not a 993. I dont think the 360 guys are a sandals and socks brigade. _________________ 996 2002 X50 Turbo Manual
"Once bitten; forever smitten"
jonttt Long Beach
Joined: 20 Aug 2012 Posts: 6447 Location: Liverpool
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:19 pm Post subject:
cheshire911 wrote:
HSC911 wrote:
Make sure you leave some sandals and socks hanging on the rear view mirror
The vehicle is a Ferrari 360, not a 993. I dont think the 360 guys are a sandals and socks brigade.
Correct, false moustache and hairy chest it is then _________________ 1997 Porsche 911 993 C4S My Journal
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2017 BMW 740 Msport
2017 RR Evoque Autobiography
Boba fett Indianapolis
Joined: 14 May 2015 Posts: 2358
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:53 pm Post subject:
I’m just mauring up my Car. Sadly the Italian exotics are not made quite as well as the German cars.
I would ACF the underneath, lube all the rubbers, and if you have a Spider, lube the roof mechanism as well as what others have said.
HSC911 Long Beach
Joined: 23 Jul 2014 Posts: 6747 Location: Bedford
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:12 pm Post subject:
jonttt wrote:
cheshire911 wrote:
HSC911 wrote:
Make sure you leave some sandals and socks hanging on the rear view mirror
The vehicle is a Ferrari 360, not a 993. I dont think the 360 guys are a sandals and socks brigade.
Correct, false moustache and hairy chest it is then
HSC911 Long Beach
Joined: 23 Jul 2014 Posts: 6747 Location: Bedford
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:15 pm Post subject:
Boba fett wrote:
I would ACF the underneath, lube all the rubbers, and if you have a Spider, lube the roof mechanism as well as what others have said.
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Have you applied any Oil of Ulay to the carbonique 
..... I would not touch the cheap stuff.......
