Welcome to 911UK
The only place for Porsche, 911uk is the definitive enthusiast and resource site for the Porsche 911.
Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so join up today for full access to the site and benefit from latest member offers.

Porsche Classifieds
Sell Your Porsche on 911uk
Create a Free Classified Advert
Search Ads
Classified Adverts FAQ
Trade Classified Information
Buyer & Seller Fraud Protection
Consumer Rights Act
Pre Purchase Inspection (PPI)
Porsche Car Sourcing
Porsche Cars Wanted
Official Porsche Centre Reviews
Model
Stock
Porsche 911
992 : 2019- 1
991 : 2011- 18
997 : 2004- 80
996 : 1997-2005 33
993 : 1993-1998 4
964 : 1989-1993 2
Carrera 3.2 : 1983-1989 3
Carrera SC : 1977-1983 1
930 Turbo : 1975-1989 0
Early 911 : 1964-1977 0
Porsche Other Models
Classic : 1950-1965 0
Boxster : 1997- 25
Cayman : 2005- 16
Cayenne : 2003- 2
Macan : 2014- 4
Panamera : 2009- 0
912-914-924-928-944-968 2
959 - CarreraGT - RaceCar 0
Car Parts For Sale & Wanted
Other Items For Sale & Wanted
Wheels Tyres For Sale & Wanted
Number Plates For Sale Wanted

Porsche Services
Porsche Body Shop Repair
Paint Protection & Wrapping
Porsche Classic Insurance
Porsche Classic Parts
Porsche Classic Restoration
Porsche Design Collection
Porsche Engine Gearbox Rebuild
Porsche Heritage & History
Porsche News
Porsche Picture Gallery
Win a New Porsche 911

Porsche Parts
Body Parts, Body Styling
Brakes, Clearance
Electrical, Exhausts
Engine Cooling, Engine Electrical
Engine Rebuild, Heating Cooling
Interior Incar, Lighting
Rubber Seals, Service Parts
Steering, Suspension
Transmission, Workshop Tools
Early 911, 911 - 930, 928 - 968
964 - 993, 996 - 997, Boxster
Cayman, Cayenne, Panamera

Porsche Model Range
911 [992] 2018-Current
Porsche 911 [992]
911 [991] 2011-2019
Porsche 911 [991]
911 [997] 2004-2012
Porsche 911 [997]
911 [GT] GT1-GT2-GT3
Porsche 911 [GT]
911 [996] 1997-2005
Porsche 911 [996]
911 [993] 1993-1998
Porsche 911 [993]
911 [RS] RS-RSR
Porsche 911 [RS]
911 [964] 1989-1993
Porsche 911 [964]
911 3.2 1983-1989
Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera
911 SC 1977-1983
Porsche 911 SC
911 [Early] 1964-1977
Porsche 911 [Early]
Boxster & Cayman
Porsche Boxster & Cayman
Cayenne & Panamera
Porsche Cayenne & Panamera

911uk Site Partners

Post new topic   Reply to topic
Author Message
FZP
Estoril


Joined: 18 Jan 2015
Posts: 3664
Location: Cheshire


PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cunno wrote:
Very interesting tale glad your ok. I wonder how this would of played out if you had clipped the kerb and damaged a wheel. I don’t thing the opc would’ve been so quick on the refund, lucky escape. What’s next car wise?

10000000000000%
_________________
997.2 Carrera 2S GT Silver/Cocoa.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Senoj
Zolder


Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Posts: 5187
Location: Sussex


PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to see that OP. I think you are bob on with the loss on the PX, they owe you.

Seems obvious that the car has had some track life with the tyres thing, even so there’s loads out there done plenty of track work with no issues let alone at that low a mileage.

The TWS is always going to be a potential weak spot at some point but I don’t think that’s just fatigue, more like someone didn’t tighten a bolt properly..
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Hamster75
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 07 Sep 2017
Posts: 312
Location: Chester


PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham .1 here,
luckily you are ok & lucky you weren't really pushing as the car was new to you,
it looked an amazing car, however I understand as it tried to kill you, lost confidence in this one.
We all admire these cars & look forward to seeing you next time at one of FZP`s meets.

Don't let this put you off, if you can afford a GT version, I for one would love to admire it at one of our meets, which is for me one of the nice things about owning them, we are all like minded similar guys with a passion for Porsche.
Can feel safe in the knowledge that we all love proper sports cars & can park them safely to discuss the ins & outs. thumbsup
_________________
991.1 C2S Red
997.2 C4 White
924 Blue
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
991.2GTS
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 02 Apr 2019
Posts: 308
Location: Yorkshire


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick update on this. Leeds OPC have now refunded me for the costs incurred, and also returned my Taycan deposit.

And while I'm far from happy with the whole experience, it's time to put this to bed and move on.
_________________
2019 991.2 C4 GTS Crayon
2019 VW Up! GTI White

Ex 2018 991.2 GT3 Crayon (Well, for 26 days anyway.....)
Ex 2018 Macan GTS Volcano Grey
Ex 2016 Macan Diesel S Black
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
easternjets
Watkins Glen


Joined: 29 Apr 2016
Posts: 2083
Location: Darlington


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you still going for the Macan Turbo?
_________________
997 Turbo Gen 2
997 Turbo Tiptronic S
Porsche 968 Coupe 1992
Porsche 928 S4
Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera 1985
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
kas750
Shanghai


Joined: 31 Mar 2013
Posts: 4513
Location: Chorley lancashire

2006 Porsche 911

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

991.2GTS wrote:
A quick update on this. Leeds OPC have now refunded me for the costs incurred, and also returned my Taycan deposit.

And while I'm far from happy with the whole experience, it's time to put this to bed and move on.

Glad you are sorted and fair play to OPC as they really couldn't of done much more.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
991.2GTS
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 02 Apr 2019
Posts: 308
Location: Yorkshire


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

easternjets wrote:
Are you still going for the Macan Turbo?


Yes, that’s locked in. The bloke who owns the car storage I use has a contact at Colchester OPC, and I’ve decided to give them a go. They’ve sorted me with a September build slot, with delivery before the end of October. This is the final spec:

http://www.porsche-code.com/PLK7SFU7
_________________
2019 991.2 C4 GTS Crayon
2019 VW Up! GTI White

Ex 2018 991.2 GT3 Crayon (Well, for 26 days anyway.....)
Ex 2018 Macan GTS Volcano Grey
Ex 2016 Macan Diesel S Black
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
easternjets
Watkins Glen


Joined: 29 Apr 2016
Posts: 2083
Location: Darlington


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good spec, it's a good colour. I really liked the Met Green when I saw it in the flesh, tbh I don't think I've seen a Macan in an unlikeable colour.

Did you cancel the Taycan over what happened with the GT3 or was it more a protest vote over their service.

To be fair I think they've been pretty fair with you but on the flip side they wouldn't want it going to court.

I looked at a 991 GTS at an OPC a few years ago, was a really nice car. I later found out it was an ex Porsche experience centre car! I really think these ex Porsche cars shouldn't be allowed to be sold on the dealership forecourts, they should be auctioned as ex Porsche cars then no one gets stung.
_________________
997 Turbo Gen 2
997 Turbo Tiptronic S
Porsche 968 Coupe 1992
Porsche 928 S4
Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera 1985
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
991.2GTS
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 02 Apr 2019
Posts: 308
Location: Yorkshire


PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

easternjets wrote:
That's a good spec, it's a good colour. I really liked the Met Green when I saw it in the flesh, tbh I don't think I've seen a Macan in an unlikeable colour.

Did you cancel the Taycan over what happened with the GT3 or was it more a protest vote over their service.

To be fair I think they've been pretty fair with you but on the flip side they wouldn't want it going to court.

I looked at a 991 GTS at an OPC a few years ago, was a really nice car. I later found out it was an ex Porsche experience centre car! I really think these ex Porsche cars shouldn't be allowed to be sold on the dealership forecourts, they should be auctioned as ex Porsche cars then no one gets stung.


I nearly went with Crayon for the Macan, but I’m not sure it works as well as it does on a 911. The last one I had was Volcano Grey, and I really like it. The Mamba Green looks good too, but a bit too bold for me.

As regards the Taycan, it was a combination of things. I was considering asking for my deposit back anyway because of all the issues they’ve had with the 992. I thought being an early adopter on the Taycan might not be the best idea. And when this happened with the GT3, it made the decision a lot easier.

The plan now is to keep the Macan for 18 months and see where we are then with the Taycan. And hopefully by the time I do order one, the charging infrastructure might have improved and they’ll have ironed out any issues with the tech.
_________________
2019 991.2 C4 GTS Crayon
2019 VW Up! GTI White

Ex 2018 991.2 GT3 Crayon (Well, for 26 days anyway.....)
Ex 2018 Macan GTS Volcano Grey
Ex 2016 Macan Diesel S Black
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
easternjets
Watkins Glen


Joined: 29 Apr 2016
Posts: 2083
Location: Darlington


PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that you've probably made a wise move there.

Read the Autocar test on the Taycan and they were very impressed with it. The other thing is the price seems to have jumped considerably with the Turbo S (no turbo in sight) costing £140,000, they said that the Turbo was the better car, especially so regarding the brakes which they claim can be only used 20% of the time so the Carbon Option is a but of a waste.
And the other thing is depreciation, nobody has a crystal ball but electric cars do seem to punished on S/H values.
Also with the uptake of electric cars being fairly low I don't think you'll have to wait long to get one if you change your mind.
Also a journalist ran an E/V as a test and said that he was pulling his hair out, firstly finding charge points and then setting up the accounts on his smart phone to pay for the use of them. Different if you have a car that has a long range but if you do a spirited run out trying to find a charge point in upper Teesdale may prove challenging!
_________________
997 Turbo Gen 2
997 Turbo Tiptronic S
Porsche 968 Coupe 1992
Porsche 928 S4
Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera 1985
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Diggermeister
Nürburgring


Joined: 26 May 2015
Posts: 458



PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others here have said, had the incident panned out differently; you'd clipped a kerb as a result, you'd gone well off the road, or worse yet, hit someone else, this could have been very, very different. A lucky escape, but a worrying one. You could have ended up carrying the can, or worse still, for the whole thing when, in fact, it was a mechanical failure.

Were it a 991.1 it would be worrying enough, but on an even newer car, it's very concerning.

Glad you have had a reasonably satisfactory resolution with the OPC.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
patpending
Hockenheim


Joined: 11 Jun 2018
Posts: 730
Location: IoM


PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’d have handed it back also as without 100% faith in a 911’s safety, I could never enjoy it.

You are a VERY lucky guy!

IMO 911’s have simply joined the technology and arguably bloated bells and whistles car arms race, with so much more to go wrong or fail.

This may help explain why values of less complex but bomb proof 996 and 997 GT and RS’s are starting to head north in terms of long term/used car ownership.

Some Indy’s wont touch the 991.1GT3’s for stock or will low-ball trade-in values.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Cheib
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 20 Feb 2016
Posts: 316



PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow...sorry to read about this. Imagine if this had happened on track ? I wonder if it’s a known issues given they sorted it out so quickly.

Glad to hear you got your money back and interesting that they’d taken a £1k deposit against a Taycan which I don’t believe they are supposed to do. Porsche GB policy is deposits only against cars once they are actually confirmed. I’ve had my name down for a Taycan for 18 months and placed a deposit on the day it was announced last week.
_________________
997 GTS Manual
Cayenne S Diesel
Ruby Star 718 Boxster - Mrs Cheib's car
Lava Orange 991.2 GT3 Manual
Sport Classic Grey Macan Turbo PP
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
991.2GTS
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 02 Apr 2019
Posts: 308
Location: Yorkshire


PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheib wrote:
Wow...sorry to read about this. Imagine if this had happened on track ? I wonder if it’s a known issues given they sorted it out so quickly.

Glad to hear you got your money back and interesting that they’d taken a £1k deposit against a Taycan which I don’t believe they are supposed to do. Porsche GB policy is deposits only against cars once they are actually confirmed. I’ve had my name down for a Taycan for 18 months and placed a deposit on the day it was announced last week.


They claim it’s not a known issue. But they said the same about the water pump failure I had on the 991.2 GTS, which, if rennlist is to be believed, isn’t strictly true.

As regards the Taycan deposit, I’ve also had an OPC offer to take a deposit off me for a 992 GTS. It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s against Porsche GB’s policy, but I suspect there are lots of things some of these franchise owners do that Porsche might frown upon.
_________________
2019 991.2 C4 GTS Crayon
2019 VW Up! GTI White

Ex 2018 991.2 GT3 Crayon (Well, for 26 days anyway.....)
Ex 2018 Macan GTS Volcano Grey
Ex 2016 Macan Diesel S Black
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   All times are GMT - 12 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2
Page 2 of 2

 
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum