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Thefinn
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually looking at the photos you have posted i might jump camps and go with Nick on pic 2 but either way i would go with 1 or 2 but not a fan of the all silver
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another delivery today Thumb

These are off a 996 so apparently need to be trimmed down by 45mm... might try and fit them over the weekend
 



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great reading love the centre console and the work you have put into it

Did you fit the exhaust bits you had only the bolts look very rusty ….did you have problems removing them

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you fit the cats you might want to extend your O2 sensors so they connect on the right side, have a look through my thread for the extension cables I made to get over the problem Thumb

Also you will probably end up needing new O2 sensors autodoc seem to be about half the price as cp4l for bosch ones
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A productive weekend Smile

First off I fitted a dual aux/usb lead to the centre armrest, with the wires chased back up under the centre console to the head unit, getting quite proficient at removing this now 🤣
 



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next I thought I would tackle the cats.... put the rear of the car up on ramps, removed the back bumper, then the heat shield on the drivers side which gave good access to remove the silencer. All good due to having replacements stainless bolts and brass nuts on the joints, other than having to drop the engine down by undoing the engine mount, so the the 2 silencer mounting bolts can be removed upwards, I put them back the other way around 👍 once that was out I got the drivers side cat out, and had a real struggle with the pre cat Lambda, had to heat the mount up with a small torch then use a pair of stilsons with a steel bar for leverage. It came out 👍 the other one came out ok, not sure if spraying them for the last 3 nights with WD helped or not🙏

I then cut that one down with an angle grinder, although I cocked it up as thought it was 35mm when in fact it’s 45mm... so will need to get them both off again st some point to slice off the other 10mm... anyways I then removed the other cat, didn’t have to remove the other silencer, but did remove the passenger side heat shield for better access. Once the second cat was off it was the same deal as the first, the pre cat lambda was stick solid and needed heat and leverage to free it up, but it eventually undid 👍 the other lambda was worryingly loose.... probably the wire clips holding it in place... anyway cut that one down by the wrong 35mm (😂) and the set about refitting it all.

As you can imagine with an additional 10mm it did t go on easy, but it did go on, so once I had figured out how to get a big more play from the loom with the lambda connectors it all went back pretty well 👍

Initial impressions are it’s a lot louder 😂 and I probably won’t be bothering with a Gundo hack 👍 car doesn’t really feel any different which was expected, but the additional noise is quite addictive.
I’ve definitely got a blow from the drivers side silencer flexi that will need attention.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After all that it was time to try this new Mcguires snow foam 👍 and then relax 🤣
 



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thefinn wrote:
When you fit the cats you might want to extend your O2 sensors so they connect on the right side, have a look through my thread for the extension cables I made to get over the problem Thumb

Also you will probably end up needing new O2 sensors autodoc seem to be about half the price as cp4l for bosch ones


Thanks mate 👍 I managed to get them all out and get enough slack to get them connected, although I think some extension cables for the 2 that have moved the most might be beneficial... where did you get them from?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hertsdriver wrote:
Thefinn wrote:
When you fit the cats you might want to extend your O2 sensors so they connect on the right side, have a look through my thread for the extension cables I made to get over the problem Thumb

Also you will probably end up needing new O2 sensors autodoc seem to be about half the price as cp4l for bosch ones


Thanks mate 👍 I managed to get them all out and get enough slack to get them connected, although I think some extension cables for the 2 that have moved the most might be beneficial... where did you get them from?



You might not have realised but I bet your post cats sensors are connected to the opposite bank than the oem set up as they should be on the same side for the individual cat but the TG cats have the lambda holes in different places (look at the photo you posted of the old vs new) so they dont stretch to the correct connector. Some say this doesn't matter but for me it just didn't sit right that the ECU was getting the wrong readings so I made the cables. Have a look at my thread and i did a little walk through how to make them with parts from Ebay and a company for the connectors who I will try to dig out the details of. You might want to also use the cable clips I used to fix it to the back of the engine support bracket as this was a tidy solution that look quite oem. Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello mate, mine are fitted the same way as the ones that same out, the furthest away one did require clipping a cable tie on the loom to give a bit more length and I’m not entirely happy with the position of the connector on that one (which you can see in the 7th and 8th pics above) so I’ll have a look st your thread as the extensions would be a good idea on those 2 👍
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a spare bit of time yesterday so got the car back up on the ramps and got the cats off again to trim the extra 10mm off.... also thought I would tackle the silencer mount bolts on the passenger side in case I want to change backboxes in the future, the long one came off fine after a bit of a struggle with the engine mount (it wouldnt undo, and ended up with the threaded section winding out of the mount with the nut stuck fast....) but the small one nearest the bumper was a right old pain! First the nut sheared off from the bottom, no problem I thought, just whack it upwards and out it will pop - oh no... turns out the bolt had welded itself to the spacer that sits in the centre of the mounting pad things (that look like round brillo pads...) and it wasnt going anywhere.. so had to get the angle grinder in (just fitted) as a hacksaw was making no progress... sliced the top of the bolt off and managed to get it all apart. had to make up a new spacer from 5 skateboard bearing spacers (which were luckily the right size...) and substituted the now defunct bolt for a piece of threaded bar.
Once all back together with new cat to manifold gaskets I have to say it sounds terrible... like a biplane. I can only think that its blowing from pretty much everywhere, and that I have probably over tightened the slip joints, so ill order up a new set of dansk joints which handily come with new silencer mounting bolts (currently discounted on ECP) and smother everything in mounting paste/sealant and try again...
I'm embarrassed to drive it at the mo, its horrible. Floor
 



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit the bullet and decided to chop the rusty, cracked leaky flex sections from the back boxes. Found a place on eBay that sells flexi to bolt over 55mm outside diameter pipe, had a measure to make sure the length was correct and had a pair delivered on Saturday morning 👍 so then once again it was up onto the ramps, bumper off, heat shields off, both boxes off, cats off and then start cutting Floor the old flex is we’re in a terrible state, butvweirdly both boxes are in good condition. Had to cut down one end of each flexi and re cut slots to make sure it sealed correctly on the short section where the old ones were cut off. Don’t really like the look of the clamps, but they work.
Had one bolt snap off on the bracket that bolts to the crossmember which holds the cats, drilled and tapped for a new bolts though so no real drama.

So happy I did this, the car is now silent, well not silent but no blowing from anywhere Thumb

The cats have definitely changed the exhaust sound, there’s a noticeable howl at 4K, it’s quite addictive and I don’t think I’ll need a gundo Grin
 



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pretty boring update this week, just replaced the frunk and engine lid festoon lamps with led versions, not because of the light but to save me burning my fingers on the hot lamp when I pull them out whilst working in that area! (yes, seriously I am that clumsy!) Floor
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread fills me with a warm feeling Justin. Great to see all the good things you are doing.

Mark
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is actually SausageCreature posting this here ... Hi everyone. Not sure how this is happening. Systech sent me the link to this thread, knowing that I would be interested in reading it.

I was, I did. I decided to reply. To my horror, the simple copy and paste that Systech sent me has copied his session token (or something like that) and enabled me to post as Systech. All I did was simply clicking on the link he sent to me so I could read this thread.

Major flaw.

I wonder how many people have posted links to these threads of facebook at al. allowing others to access their profiles and post whatever they like.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mark (in disguise Laughing Laughing ) that is a worry. I always have an issue on this forum with having to log in each time I visit, the cookies dont set correctly..

Will drop you an email Thumb hope you are doing ok, i'm trying ot take care of her as best I can thumbsup

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

systech1 wrote:
This is actually SausageCreature posting this here ... Hi everyone. Not sure how this is happening. Systech sent me the link to this thread, knowing that I would be interested in reading it.

I was, I did. I decided to reply. To my horror, the simple copy and paste that Systech sent me has copied his session token (or something like that) and enabled me to post as Systech. All I did was simply clicking on the link he sent to me so I could read this thread.

Major flaw.

I wonder how many people have posted links to these threads of facebook at al. allowing others to access their profiles and post whatever they like.

Mark


This is the real SYSTECH1 here Wink This does seem like a security flaw. I have deleted the FB post with the link but would be interested to hear what the site administrators have to say. Very Happy
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This is the real SYSTECH1 here Wink This does seem like a security flaw. I have deleted the FB post with the link but would be interested to hear what the site administrators have to say. Very Happy



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Little mod on Saturday, changed the front side lights out for some led ones as they looked a bit odd and 'yellow' next to the Xenon's.
£10 for 4 on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07D8RCW2H/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

No errors, new on the left, old on the right for comparison Thumb
 



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Had a spare couple of hours so decided to get a couple of jobs done that were bugging me... first off tidy up the practical but not very nice to look at exhaust clamps... my wife was the starter on this one ‘what have you done to the back of your car it looks horrible’ Laughing Laughing Laughing she was referring to the silver clamps I used to replace the flexi sections, I hadn’t noticed them but she had seen them hanging from underneath the car, and once she pointed them out my ocd wouldn’t leave them where they were, so slacked the off one at a time, rotated 90 degrees towards the front of the car and retightened. Also moved the cat supports round by 90 degrees and it looks much better thanks wifey Thumb
 



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