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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:59 pm    Post subject: 997.2C4S -> 996/997.1 GT3 ??? Reply with quote

I've currently got a 997.2C4S which I really like but its simply not special enough and I find myself having thoughts of buying a GT3. To be fair I've wanted a GT3 for years.

My budget limits me to a 996 or 997.1 as the cost to change could be 35k. Bristol Porsche has a nice 997.1 with a warranty which I keep looking at . . .

Is the GT3 really worth 35k over my current car?
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 997.2C4S -> 996/997.1 GT3 ??? Reply with quote

swilding wrote:
I've currently got a 997.2C4S which I really like but its simply not special enough and I find myself having thoughts of buying a GT3. To be fair I've wanted a GT3 for years.

My budget limits me to a 996 or 997.1 as the cost to change could be 35k. Bristol Porsche has a nice 997.1 with a warranty which I keep looking at . . .

Is the GT3 really worth 35k over my current car?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

£77k with 111point Porsche inspection & they have no shame listing the tyres @ 3mm Razz

Total fanboy Porsche , stunning in so many aspects but if you aren't wowed by your current C4S then throwing another £35k on top for the GT3 it would really need to thrill you .
Only you know the sort of miles you cover & how you get your ownership pleasure , tough decision ahead , best of luck with it
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

at that price point, worth seeing what is out in the Indy network, as there is a lot of choice


as an example 9e have this https://www.nineexcellence.com/porsche-sales/sales-996gt313.html

RPM have these 2
https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/vehicle/997-gt3-clubsport/
https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/vehicle/996-gt3-2/

Chappell
https://www.chappellsportscars.com/used-cars/porsche-911-996-3-6-gt3-mkii-comfort/
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:40 am    Post subject: Re: 997.2C4S -> 996/997.1 GT3 ??? Reply with quote

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Is the GT3 really worth 35k over my current car?


No.

But if you want one, that's what you'll have to pay unfortunately.

I'm constantly thinking about this, chopping in my turbo for a 97 GT3, but it just isn't twice the car, yet is more than twice the money. Question
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

911UK wrote:
at that price point, worth seeing what is out in the Indy network, as there is a lot of choice


as an example 9e have this https://www.nineexcellence.com/porsche-sales/sales-996gt313.html

RPM have these 2
https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/vehicle/997-gt3-clubsport/
https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/vehicle/996-gt3-2/

Chappell
https://www.chappellsportscars.com/used-cars/porsche-911-996-3-6-gt3-mkii-comfort/


The last one at Chappell , is it me or has the front end been painted with a terrible mismatch wings to doors Dont know
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went from a late 996 turbo to a 997.1 GT3 CS and the difference was night and day.Just different gravy.
My advice to anyone looking is to try and find a clubsport as apart from being the very essence of a GT car they sell fairly easily if you decide it’s not for you.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only question I’d have to ask myself is this ?

Once you get the GT3 will you then set your sights on the RS ? I know I would, I already have...... and it’s been niggling me for 15+ years now, fortunately I’ve been extremely busy with work / family for most of my adult life but there is a void which which my C4S is currently failing to fill, I’m already looking at a GTS and I’ve only had it a month,

The tick list I thought I’d mostly filled seems to have been mislaid and I’m already looking at what it’s not got, smilie grill, centre lock wheels, bucket seats, harness’s, power, presence,

It’s a slippery slope, good luck with your decision making,
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: 997.2C4S -> 996/997.1 GT3 ??? Reply with quote

swilding wrote:
I've currently got a 997.2C4S which I really like but its simply not special enough and I find myself having thoughts of buying a GT3. To be fair I've wanted a GT3 for years.

My budget limits me to a 996 or 997.1 as the cost to change could be 35k. Bristol Porsche has a nice 997.1 with a warranty which I keep looking at . . .

Is the GT3 really worth 35k over my current car?


100%. Its probably worth about 70k more.

GT3's are hard to imagine until you try one... chalk and cheese but in a similar body shape.. i know as i went from a 997C2S to 997 GT3 and could not believe the difference. Do it! Good luck
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

C4Silver wrote:

Once you get the GT3 will you then set your sights on the RS ?
Not necessarily. There are a lot of considerations and the jump from say 997.1 GT3 to 997.1 GT3 RS is very significant in terms of price (and rarity of the car) but not so in the actual experience. Hands down, an RS is 'better' but not hugely different.

In my personal opinion a GT3 Clubsport is still in the price bracket of being 'usable', whereas anything over £100k less so and brings other issues, such as trackday insurance at the 'Ring being twice as much.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: 997.2C4S -> 996/997.1 GT3 ??? Reply with quote

swilding wrote:
I've currently got a 997.2C4S which I really like but its simply not special enough and I find myself having thoughts of buying a GT3. To be fair I've wanted a GT3 for years.

My budget limits me to a 996 or 997.1 as the cost to change could be 35k. Bristol Porsche has a nice 997.1 with a warranty which I keep looking at . . .

Is the GT3 really worth 35k over my current car?


The words “not special enough” are the key, and exactly how I felt about my 997.2 C4S. The budget is irrelevant if you can afford it, and still a rock solid place to put your cash, GT3 all the way, as special as it gets at any money, just do it!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: 997.2C4S -> 996/997.1 GT3 ??? Reply with quote

freddie44 wrote:


GT3's are hard to imagine until you try one...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’d agree with RS comments, looks like it’s Club-sport then !
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the information guys.

Seems I better start the financial approval process with the wife!

And yes I need buckets and cage.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd really love a GT3 but the cost to switch over here would be ridiculous (I'd probably need another C4S to trade in, on top of my C4S). I'd rather buy some additional cars, as it would be a bit awkward to use the GT3 in the winter around here...

But if it was 'only' 35kGBP and I had the money, and I had a winter beater, I might well do it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swilding wrote:
Thanks for the information guys.

Seems I better start the financial approval process with the wife!

And yes I need buckets and cage.
It's a good time to buy IMHO - if people are selling now they are doing so knowing the market is slow, so are on the back foot to an extent. It's a buyer's market.

Best fast-track the approval process! (i.e. beg forgiveness rather than permission.)
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am doing a similar move albeit from a 993 C4S. My first GT3 drives was a 996.2 and it was epic,the £35k cost to change is worth it for the engine alone!
My preference is the 997,but i will need to sell the 993 first and then start the hunt.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ll add my view here as a GT3 owner for many years, yes imo a great car a lot more raw and mechanical that a C2. There not for everyone if your intended use is mainly road use then you will struggle to see why they are nearly double the price of a C2 as straight line performance isn’t massively different and on a road you will struggle to explore the true grip a GT3 has. The noise rattling cage and harsh suspension make them challenging to drive long distance and on Uk B roads. There are a few that like that challenge there are a lot more who just don’t get it.

If you intend to track the car there are very few cars that can match it, they really are special cars. Totally adjustable and reliable there aren’t many cars that you drive 10hrs to ring, track for 2 days and then drive home without missing a beat. On track they come alive and you can exploit the difference between a standard 911 and a GT3. This is where imo Gt3 and RS belong and owning such a car without regular track use is really missing out on the whole GT experience.
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