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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:25 am    Post subject: DISSOLUTION Reply with quote

Not quite sure why BT propose dissolution of the company?

If it gets dissolved any stock cars that get found become ownership of the Crown.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's assume that the cars are still out there somewhere and that Gmund actually received the monies for them and that it was of the order of £1M...

Surely it would be relatively straightforward to understand where the money went? Into a bank account and back out again.....

Just wonder what he might have spent a million on???

“I spent a lot of money on booze, birds, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.”

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just wonder what he might have spent a million on???

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has either of them been charged as yet with anything? food food food food food food
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are any of the following cars on the missing list?

Black 1987 3.2 911 Carrera
Red 1983 3.2 911 Carrera Targa
Silver 1988 930 Turbo Cab
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Lockheed wrote:
Are any of the following cars on the missing list?

Black 1987 3.2 911 Carrera
Red 1983 3.2 911 Carrera Targa
Silver 1988 930 Turbo Cab


Unsure, I know the identity of (and in contact with some of) the people involved but not necessarily the cars.

To complicate matters, I’m starting to see some former Gmund cars appear on other websites / auction sites which could be sinister or might just be former SOR customers who have taken their vehicles back advertising via other dealers. Suffice to say, “Gmund watching” is my new hobby and all information is being passed to the Authorities for investigation.

The Administrators Report is a very polite & sanitised version of the facts in my opinion, certain things, like their relationship with Mearns (suspect it is not good) or what they’ll be saying in their report to the DBI (suspect not flattering) isn’t clear. Also the comment regarding disputed ownership of the vehicles isn’t clear - is this Mearns disputing ownership or the Police wanting to reunite victims with their vehicles rather than putting them into the Administrators pot ?

Any reason for singling out these particular vehicles ?

I’m pretty sure no-one has been charged at this stage. I suspect the first we’ll know is when it appears on the North Yorkshire Police news feed, although, I suspect there may be some advanced warning.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pagoda1966 wrote:
Captain Lockheed wrote:
Are any of the following cars on the missing list?

Black 1987 3.2 911 Carrera
Red 1983 3.2 911 Carrera Targa
Silver 1988 930 Turbo Cab



Any reason for singling out these particular vehicles ?


Last week a very close friend of mine was offered all three.
The price mentioned was £85k for all three.
He (my friend) has that kind of cash available at short notice.
As I am saving for a 993, but would jump at the 930, he mentioned it to me.
We asked to take a look at the cars and were told they would be brought to us.
The gist was quick sale wanted.
It just didn't sound legit, so we decided to pass on them.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Lockheed wrote:
Pagoda1966 wrote:
Captain Lockheed wrote:
Are any of the following cars on the missing list?

Black 1987 3.2 911 Carrera
Red 1983 3.2 911 Carrera Targa
Silver 1988 930 Turbo Cab



Any reason for singling out these particular vehicles ?


Last week a very close friend of mine was offered all three.
The price mentioned was £85k for all three.
He (my friend) has that kind of cash available at short notice.
As I am saving for a 993, but would jump at the 930, he mentioned it to me.
We asked to take a look at the cars and were told they would be brought to us.
The gist was quick sale wanted.
It just didn't sound legit, so we decided to pass on them.


another plot twist
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be passing on those contact details to the police and administrators for it to be investigated ASAP.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@911uk It is only another plot twist if these vehicles are part of the disputed stock/assets.
Which is why I am trying to find out.

FZP wrote:
I'd be passing on those contact details to the police and administrators for it to be investigated ASAP.




I don't know if these cars are part of this ongoing investigation, hence my original post.
It stank to high heaven, but they may not be part of this.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I purchased a car off GMund May 18 had a few issues which surprised me, car was delivered free of charge but the work that was agreed prior to purchasing had not been completed and it was missing a few interior bits. However, these were sent down and he paid my Indy for the work - eventually. I think I have been lucky!
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your Indy was even luckier Wink

Just another example of him being a “chancer” ie working on the basis he can agree things to get a sale and then try to get away without doing them Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Lockheed wrote:
@911uk It is only another plot twist if these vehicles are part of the disputed stock/assets.
Which is why I am trying to find out.

FZP wrote:
I'd be passing on those contact details to the police and administrators for it to be investigated ASAP.




I don't know if these cars are part of this ongoing investigation, hence my original post.
It stank to high heaven, but they may not be part of this.


Think I’ve managed to track down the three cars in question. They’ve never been part of Andrew’s stock but coincidentally, the Jersey based dealer who has them is one of Gmund’s creditors (£35k) and listed in the Administrators Report. Bargain at £85k (listed at £195k).....
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pagoda1966 wrote:
Captain Lockheed wrote:
@911uk It is only another plot twist if these vehicles are part of the disputed stock/assets.
Which is why I am trying to find out.

FZP wrote:
I'd be passing on those contact details to the police and administrators for it to be investigated ASAP.




I don't know if these cars are part of this ongoing investigation, hence my original post.
It stank to high heaven, but they may not be part of this.


Think I’ve managed to track down the three cars in question. They’ve never been part of Andrew’s stock but coincidentally, the Jersey based dealer who has them is one of Gmund’s creditors (£35k) and listed in the Administrators Report. Bargain at £85k (listed at £195k).....


The 3 cars can be found at http://www.leriche.com/sales.php

a coincidence ?

Although the red car may have been for sale for a while?
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