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Jamie Summers
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PM sent. Happy to throw my Designtek coilovers into the mix, which might make an interesting comparison at broadly the same price as factory M030.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,
we're looking at Bruntingthorpe (in Leicestershire) as the base, Steve Bennett from 911&PW has a relationship there and CG recon there are some good roads around for ride testing.

I've had a full suspension refresh by CG using Ohlins but I find the ride too hard. The road and rack springs are too stiff for road use and don't allow the dampers enough travel.

Various members here have different set ups but very few have tried more than one or two options.

My aim is to understand how different alternative suspensions really are and which we prefer. My prime interest is ride but we will also obviously be considering handling too.

We are very aware that there are lots of variables such as tyres, ride height, 2/4 wheel drive, early vs late cars etc. etc. but we are aiming to increase our understanding.

Chris from CG is joining us (probably Pete too).
Best wishes
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I'm not on holiday I'd will up for this.
C4 on stock suspension, CG alignment set up.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it helps at all I can supply some vehicle dynamics logging kit to record roll/pitch/yaw to a few hundredths of a degree, and braking distances to within a couple of cm. The same kit Porsche currently use for road cra brake development.
Also got a C2 on M030.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent both.

MC, dynamic monitoring is perfect, Chris at CG has some accelerometers but one issue is bound to be accurate mounting for comparisons.

We obviously have a wide variety of cars and I'll put together a starting checklist when I get home on the 23rd. We'll also set some traffic cones!

Mike
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is some Exe-TC information attached; hope it helps.

The ride/handling balance is incredibly good (although the Evora is actually better!).
 



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be interested in this, my 2002 C2 is currently on the original M030 option with a CG arms/joints refresh and setup from 2 years ago. Chris said the shocks were still in tolerance at the time but I'd like to know what the best option would be when they do start to show their age...

Handily I already booked that week off so can come up to Bruntingthorpe on 26th Sept if it would help.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, maybe I need some more Fuchs style wheels...

Any info can be shared from the day yet?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure there will be, but all I have is some photographs:



Thanks to Mike for making it happen - it was fun.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, thanks Mike for organising. It was nice to meet everyone.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that two different Zenith blue cars? First photo shows non aero then second shows aero with ducktail but both with the same wheels/decal.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One is an RPM car, the other is Jamie's
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both with the Group 4 Fuchs, and seemingly very close together on the original production line, with identical factory spec.

Really enjoyed the day, hugely lucky with the weather overall. Massive thanks to Mike for organisation !

I think we all got a good degree of validation / analysis of our individual set-ups. Will be interesting to see if there are any broader conclusions to be drawn.

Jamie
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others have said a really great day. For me looking to upgrade my suspension it was invaluable. Thanks to those who gave me a run in their cars and well done Mike for setting it all up.
Look forward to seeing all the data.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the others have said " thanks Mike for setting this up" . Great day and good to meet great bunch of people and some interesting discussions
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really cheesed off I couldn't get to this. Convinced that my Bilstein B8 and H&R spring setup would have stood comparison to the other setups and would have loved to know how some really good coilovers compared.

Hopefully some other cars with similar suspension made it up?. I'm eagerly waiting for the magazine write up as well as hearing from you all on here.

Judging by the pictures above, Mikes perseverance with planning and coordination has clearly borne fruit. Nice one Mike.👍
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gutted I couldn’t make it, stupid exhaust was too loud!! Still waiting on my OEM boxes back from the fab shop.

Would’ve been interesting to see how a “new” M030 kit and full component refresh would’ve compared to the new coil over packages.

Well done Mike for sorting, will read it when it comes out!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly thanks to Mike for putting this day together, so lucky with the weather for nearly the whole day. Hand

12 cars and none of them alike (apart from 50% of them being silver....)

I think we all learned quite a bit about the way other people use and setup their cars and despite the variety in suspensions, all the ones I tried felt very similar with ride quality being the obvious difference although we weren't really testing their limits.

After going out in Ian's car I'm now looking at Recaro seats Rolling Eyes

Oh and Gooey36, Chris Franklin said that the M030 kit gets better as it wears in (mine is 17 years old and 65k miles but all arms etc refreshed at CG 2 years ago) - he reckoned if you're not really into track days then "it's a very nice place to be" - so I'm sticking with mine for the foreseeable thumbsup Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that’s good news peterg1955. I go out regularly with a couple of friends and their very different cars (see gratuitous photo opportunity!) post M030 (+RSS engine mounts, coffin arms, tuning forks and geo) I was amazed how different the car felt..I can stick with them on the twisties now! Tyres are the limiting factor!
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