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Brunty88
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:31 pm    Post subject: 997.1 steering wheel upgarde Reply with quote

started out to just upgrade as I always have disliked to steering wheel and interior
got a few more things planned but this is for now.
newer style brought second hand off ebay
came from an auto car
so removed the back cover
removed the shifters
ordered a new back cover for a manual wheel so no shifter cut outs
brought the airbag off ebay had to ensure the plugs and connections were the same
once all together set the wheel up
removed the old one and installed the new one
I will be changing this for a multifunction wheel as I didn't know you could add this but my indi said they could so ill get that and have it all done when I get the cruise control added.
it feels like a much nicer wheel the grip is slightly larger and looks so much smarter
few pics i have more if wanted like the part number for the cover and airbag and airbag connections etc


and the old one
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice job this is on my list of things to do I didn't realise you could use the auto ones and remove the shifters Thumb How much did it cost you with all the bits to do the change if you don't mind me asking

cheers

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:09 pm    Post subject: snap Reply with quote

I did the same and love the new wheel
 



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim did you get all the multi functions on the wheel working I had read there is a guy in the states that does an adapter/loom
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 997.1 steering wheel upgarde Reply with quote

Brunty88 wrote:
started out to just upgrade as I always have disliked to steering wheel and interior
got a few more things planned but this is for now.
newer style brought second hand off ebay
came from an auto car
so removed the back cover
removed the shifters
ordered a new back cover for a manual wheel so no shifter cut outs
brought the airbag off ebay had to ensure the plugs and connections were the same
once all together set the wheel up
removed the old one and installed the new one
I will be changing this for a multifunction wheel as I didn't know you could add this but my indi said they could so ill get that and have it all done when I get the cruise control added.
it feels like a much nicer wheel the grip is slightly larger and looks so much smarter
few pics i have more if wanted like the part number for the cover and airbag and airbag connections etc


Looks good, thank you for sharing thumbsup
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Brunty88
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazc2 wrote:
Nice job this is on my list of things to do I didn't realise you could use the auto ones and remove the shifters Thumb How much did it cost you with all the bits to do the change if you don't mind me asking

cheers

Gaz


Total was about 650-700 all in
It all depends on the price of the used parts ie the wheel and airbag
The back cover was on 911uk but no discount as I didn’t realise until after
Very easy for a manual non multi function wheel
My indi says they can code it easy enough so that’s next
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: snap Reply with quote

tgdesign wrote:
I did the same and love the new wheel

How did you get the wheel to work was it just coding on a PIWIS or did you have to get a wiring harness adaptor I thought the adaptor was only required if you went from a non multi to a multi I’m sure it’s all modules and I can just add the buttons as they’re available on their own but there’s also a wheel with them but it’s quite a bit more than just the button sections
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:39 am    Post subject: 991 wheel Reply with quote

Gazc2 wrote:
Tim did you get all the multi functions on the wheel working I had read there is a guy in the states that does an adapter/loom


Gary

I used this guy Paul li very good service .

https://gpsadapter.us

you can find him on facebook also, hes from china.

you will also need a gen 2 steering wheel control module

then it was plug and play

Tim
 
  
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villaman
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: 991 wheel Reply with quote

Very good..thanks for the thread.....

I did this on my 987 with a sport design steering wheel but couldn't get the horn to work..i guess it needed coding.

Im looking to do the same on my 997 and will likely have to buy the PDK wheel as they seem far more common on FleeBay....so its good to know that the paddles can be removed.....good tip
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 991 wheel Reply with quote

villaman wrote:
Very good..thanks for the thread.....

I did this on my 987 with a sport design steering wheel but couldn't get the horn to work..i guess it needed coding.

Im looking to do the same on my 997 and will likely have to buy the PDK wheel as they seem far more common on FleeBay....so its good to know that the paddles can be removed.....good tip


Villaman, if the horn didn't work it was probably on of 2 things you needed the gen2 steering control module as well as the wheel etc, or you needed to get the OPC to use PIWIS to turn on the multifunction option this needs to be done even if you dont have multifunction . these are the 2 most common reasons for the horn not working after upgrading the wheel. Thumb Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 991 wheel Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
villaman wrote:
Very good..thanks for the thread.....

I did this on my 987 with a sport design steering wheel but couldn't get the horn to work..i guess it needed coding.

Im looking to do the same on my 997 and will likely have to buy the PDK wheel as they seem far more common on FleeBay....so its good to know that the paddles can be removed.....good tip


Villaman, if the horn didn't work it was probably on of 2 things you needed the gen2 steering control module as well as the wheel etc, or you needed to get the OPC to use PIWIS to turn on the multifunction option this needs to be done even if you dont have multifunction . these are the 2 most common reasons for the horn not working after upgrading the wheel. Thumb Thumb


Hi Phil,

Thank you very much for the information.....lets hope its the former...but I'll get my local Indy to do this first.

Thanks again, Simon
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a great upgrade, I’d like to do the same to mine!

Popped into Porsche Portsmouth earlier only to be told that because mine is a 2011 997.2 I can’t change my multi function wheel for a sports wheel with paddles - is there any truth to this?!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maccy wrote:
Looks like a great upgrade, I’d like to do the same to mine!

Popped into Porsche Portsmouth earlier only to be told that because mine is a 2011 997.2 I can’t change my multi function wheel for a sports wheel with paddles - is there any truth to this?!


Maccy need a bit more info please mate . if you want a 997.2/991.1 sports wheel to replace your std 997.2 MF wheel then yes its a straight swap but the 997.2 wheel is out of stock as its part number has been superseded by the 991 part number so you need to tell them to order that . the sports wheel for the 997.2/991.1 didn't ever come with a mf option so you would lose that facility . if your trying to fit the 991.2 steering wheel (the one with the domed airbag ) (this had the MF on a wheel under the steering wheel) to your 997.2 it can be done but a little more complex . which is it your trying to do, and is your a pdk or manual Thumb Thumb

heres a couple of pics of my std mf gen2 wheel then the new alcantara sports wheel with the 991 part number Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice Phil...your cars looks very interesting with the below...any chance you could upload a couple of pics ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have gone for the sports design manual wheel as I didn't mind losing the multifunction as it didn't like to my replacement stereo anyway but I also swapped out the gear knob and hand brake for the x97 ones.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
Maccy wrote:
Looks like a great upgrade, I’d like to do the same to mine!

Popped into Porsche Portsmouth earlier only to be told that because mine is a 2011 997.2 I can’t change my multi function wheel for a sports wheel with paddles - is there any truth to this?!


Maccy need a bit more info please mate . if you want a 997.2/991.1 sports wheel to replace your std 997.2 MF wheel then yes its a straight swap but the 997.2 wheel is out of stock as its part number has been superseded by the 991 part number so you need to tell them to order that . the sports wheel for the 997.2/991.1 didn't ever come with a mf option so you would lose that facility . if your trying to fit the 991.2 steering wheel (the one with the domed airbag ) (this had the MF on a wheel under the steering wheel) to your 997.2 it can be done but a little more complex . which is it your trying to do, and is your a pdk or manual Thumb Thumb

heres a couple of pics of my std mf gen2 wheel then the new alcantara sports wheel with the 991 part number Thumb


Thanks Phil, yeh I’ve currently got a MF wheel for my 997.2 GTS, which is PDK with launch control.

I did have a look on design 911 and found the part and remember hearing about the part being superseded by the 991.1 part.

So is the dealer just not aware of this change?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: 991 wheel Reply with quote

tgdesign wrote:
Gazc2 wrote:
Tim did you get all the multi functions on the wheel working I had read there is a guy in the states that does an adapter/loom


Gary

I used this guy Paul li very good service .

https://gpsadapter.us

you can find him on facebook also, hes from china.

you will also need a gen 2 steering wheel control module

then it was plug and play

Tim


That was the guy I was thinking off Thumb steering wheel,changing the pcm and painting the switch surrounds are all on the to do list.

good thread here

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/tech-how/331998-997-pcm-face-removal.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: 991 wheel Reply with quote

Gazc2 wrote:
tgdesign wrote:
Gazc2 wrote:
Tim did you get all the multi functions on the wheel working I had read there is a guy in the states that does an adapter/loom


Gary

I used this guy Paul li very good service .

https://gpsadapter.us

you can find him on facebook also, hes from china.

you will also need a gen 2 steering wheel control module

then it was plug and play

Tim


That was the guy I was thinking off Thumb steering wheel,changing the pcm and painting the switch surrounds are all on the to do list.

good thread here

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/tech-how/331998-997-pcm-face-removal.html


I painted mine, Gay it looks so much better I think and I changed the heater control buttons at the same time.



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