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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:45 am    Post subject: Loose Gearstick ------------------ Reply with quote

Hi all, what would cause the gearstick to be floppy left-right and also what adjustments are there to eliminate to get a tighter feel? Is there also adjustments to that its easier to shift into gear?

I was told that i could fit a GT3 shift cables, is there any different in fitting a GT3 shift cable over the standard C2/C4, i.e. thicker? More reliable? Easy shifting etc?? Or maybe any other aftermarket stuff?

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before replacing the cables I would check the cable run/fixings and the shifter itself. It sounds like the bushes in the shifter may be shot in which case replacing the shifter or installing a Short Shift Kit May solve the problem.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

systech1 wrote:
Before replacing the cables I would check the cable run/fixings and the shifter itself. It sounds like the bushes in the shifter may be shot in which case replacing the shifter or installing a Short Shift Kit May solve the problem.


I have a shoet shift kit that was fitted 1600 miles ago, guess it was always like that but am sure aome adjustments can be done to gwt it tighter etc....

Regards to cables am thinking of future proof, maybe fit cables that arw better and more reliable !!
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a small bushing, solid plastic which works with the left and right motion on a standard shifter. When I upgraded to a B&M and a replica B&M, both didn't have any sort of bushing and this has added some left and right play in the shifter on my 997 and boxster. Prior to the shifter, the knobs were solid with minimal - no left and right wobble. The pros outweight the con with the short shift but it does make it feel crap.. I'm sure a GT3 shifter would be the answer.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fitted a Function First Shift Right kit to my 996... removed all the looseness by replacing the plastic bushes and yoke with billet alu ones. Great mod and easy to fit whilst maintaining the standard throw.

Alex of these pages could sort you out with a modded short shift with proper bushes.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This function first kit, where could i purchase it from? Maybe an original GT3 shifter can be tge solution!!!

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s available direct from Function First... you will need to check it will fit your particular short shift.
http://www.function-first.com/products/engine-trans/shift-right-solution
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex modded a 997 shift for my 996, it's a really rifle bolt like lever now.

Where do you live, I'll be at the Fairmile meet tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex modded a 997 shift for my 996, it's a really rifle bolt like lever now.

Where do you live, I'll be at the Fairmile meet tomorrow.

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FRZ 911
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2007 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:
I fitted a Function First Shift Right kit to my 996... removed all the looseness by replacing the plastic bushes and yoke with billet alu ones. Great mod and easy to fit whilst maintaining the standard throw.

Alex of these pages could sort you out with a modded short shift with proper bushes.


As above. Alex will provide you with a sorted solution for quite a bit less than the Function First option. It has worked superbly on my C4S.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so we wait for Alex to join in the thread?

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PM him?
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pm sent. Sorry guys, was off line yesterday at a family funeral.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 997 also has a bit of movement left/right on the gear stick. Upon investigation I found it was the white block part which the gear stick engages with, rather than any movement within the actual gear stick itself. The white block is plastic and I guess over the course of 100,000 miles its just worn. Its on my list to replace at some point.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, ok ive added pictures of my short shifter, when moving left to right it has play in it as mentioned, the side bolts are tight. On the left hand side thes a white block piece whith a part of the shifter that sits in, it seems like thats where the play is, would that be the culprit due to wear and tear or is suppose to be like it?

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wear, although the amount I've seen in that area wouldn't normally be easily felt through your own feel on the stick Dont know

On another note - I had my gearbox oil changed today and the shift feels totally different.
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My car had the OEM SSK in when I bought it, which also felt loose to me.

I now have the numeric shifter (not cheap, I know), and cup cables, and it’s superb.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have the b&m/ebay shifter, so you have what I described in previous post. It basically requires some sort of bushing which fits inside that white plastic bit on the left. The standard shifter has it, the blue one you have doesn't.
That's the issue.
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The blue one is designed to be a good fit in that plastic rocker. Both parts need inspecting to see which is the culprit.
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah it's not unfortunately, it's basically missing the bushing which the OEM's have, the bush squeezes over the ball on the end. The blue ones don't come with this and it results in side to side play. The factory bushing doesn't fit over the larger ball end on the blue ones.

Got the issue in my 997 and Box, if someone could make something, hat would be amazing!!!
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