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Robert SausageTrousers

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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragpicker wrote:

Fantastic attitude though dude Thumb

I can't say I agree, I think if I'd been stitched up by £10k+ by the previous owner (the chances he didn't know it was ****ed are pretty slim) I wouldn't just say 'hay ho', I'd be at least contacting the guy and looking for some compensation.

If I put the shoe on the other foot, and I sold my car to someone and it failed catastrophically within a few hundred miles then I would want to be helping out in some way, I wouldn't feel right just letting the new owner deal with such a nightmare situation.

Like I say, the chances that the previous owner had absolutely no idea that there was anything wrong with the car are pretty slim.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marky911 wrote:
I’d definitely be getting in touch and seeing what he has to say.

Probably "jog on mate" and "caveat emptor" and then block his number.

Theres a thousand threads on pistonheads inverse to this where people selling cars are guilt tripped by nasty buyers into part refunds.

Its all part of the risk of buying anything second hand privately.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marky911 wrote:
I know what you’re saying Robert and Raggy, the noise came on afterwards etc and some owners are just not that clued up or interested, but one thing he would have noticed was the oil usage.
Unless he never checked it, let it run low, his Indy checked and said get rid, in which case he still knew.
I’d definitely be getting in touch and seeing what he has to say.

Knowingly selling on a car with problems would make the seller liable in court...dealer or private.

However, in the real world, proving a private seller has knowing sold the car with problems would be nigh on impossible.

At least the new owner hasn't taken the option to"sell on".......which shows there are still some honest, decent people left in this country. Judge

I admit I am cynical....but we are all a product of our environment.

E.G last year I had some toerag send me a solicitor's letter saying I had reneged on a 2 year contract for 28 mobile phones....and I owed him £45.000 Floor
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an update, I've got my Porsche back from the mechanic, he's probably well know on these forums, based in vauxhall. S.London.

I had the minor service and brake fluid change, couple of other things. His opinion was they see quite a few 911's with this issue and they keep them running by carrying out oil changes every 6 month, (which I can do myself), and they have several still on the road after a few years.
He thought mine was not so bad in the schema of things.

I've done research on rebuilds, the consensus is and I've rang around a few places. this issue can be sorted for around £6-7k. Hartech's everything and the kitchen sink solution is £12k inc VAT.

The difference with Hartech is they do a cylinder lining unique to them because of the investment they have made in their own tooling, but there are another 50 Porsche specialists in the UK who are very competent at more competitive prices. It just depends how far you want to go with a rebuild and what actually needs doing as opposed to all the future proofing of components you may do when the engine is out. You could probably sort out this issue for a base price of £8k even with Hartech, its when you start adding the extras the bill goes up.

I'm going to keep mine running for the next 2 years (I'm probably going to clock up 3k miles in that time), if it has issues I'll tackle them and like I said in about 2 years time, I'll schedule an engine rebuild with a budget of £7k.

If you think about it an engine rebuild warranty will be 2 years. If I keep the car running and it doesn't blow up in the meantime, which from all the specialists I've spoke to is a highly unlikely outcome, then over the course of 4 years, I would have spent £7k on the car (outside of servicing), which is about £1,750 per year. A bit higher than I expected but I'll have a rebuilt engine and probably a car good for another 10 years and then that investment is spread over even a longer term.

With regards to the previous owner, he may or may not have known there was an issue, but he didn't seem the type and to be honest I'm not going to pursue him, I've enquired once and he said talk to his mechanic, his mechanic, who is a respected specialist told me the car was 100% when it left him in February 2019. Thats closed for me, its my car, I've taken it on, I'll deal with it.

I picked the car up yesterday and drove it through an absolute downpour virtual monsoon and I was surprised at how insulated from it all I was in the Porsche, there were police cars, sirens blaring, rush hour traffic, roads flooding and sitting in the 911 in queueing traffic with the radio on it was just so serene and peaceful, LOVE THIS CAR!

I did notice however, that the rear windscreen wiper wasn't working, any tips?
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what you are saying is the perfect approach to this issue, just drive it and save as you go until you feel the need to rebuild and out the other side you should have the perfect 996.

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wiring below of the rear wiper .. i would suspect the relay although i've never changed one .. on a targa they are next to the wiper motor so i assume they are the same on a coupe .

Either way i would start at the relay when fault finding .
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