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heed
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:18 pm    Post subject: Is this a C4S? Reply with quote

This might seem a strange question, but I’ve never seen a 996 C4S that didn’t have a red stripe.

Went to look at this one today (local) and aside from it being in terrible condition, it occurred to me it was missing the red stripe!

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/other-models/2002-02-porsche-996-3-6-c-4-s-coupe/9522136

Has someone sprayed the callipers and put an S on a C4?!?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's just a standard Carrera.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a C4s:








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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Alex. That’s what I thought... I just had a 5% niggle that maybe there was some early version that was different. Poor dealer - he probably doesn’t realise.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and over valued !
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...looked tatty too...
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'd value that around £14-£15k.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone's paid a few quid to add an S to their rear badge.

I wonder if the dealer paid over the odds by not knowing his Porsches. Question

Well done for not getting suckered 'heed'. Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just emailed dealer stating simply...Not a C4S.

Not holding my breath for a reply....

Did anyone see the Facebook doosh that posted a pic of a C4 recently with the caption ‘loving my C4S’

He got roasted
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Alex for posting those pics, just to remind us what a great looking car the 4S is! Cloud 9
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from the obvious (to us) external differences it doesnt take much effort to see if the front wheels have a drive shaft going to them!

Ian
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paynewright wrote:
Apart from the obvious (to us) external differences it doesnt take much effort to see if the front wheels have a drive shaft going to them!

Ian


The C4 and the C4S both have this.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I right in thinking the 996.1 C4 was a narrow bodied car? Like PPBB’s 300k miler!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Both gen 1 & 2 C4 were narrow bodied.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair play to this chap he has indeed emailed me back stating that he is going to check the status of the car with Porsche UK.

Think we all now how that will go, I feel bad now, should I feel bad?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don’t feel bad.

I would be astonished if the trader did not know what they were up to.

It’s not even like it’s trying to be a 4S, other than an S stuck on the end if the badge. It’s not even a proper 4S badge!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would be astonished if the trader did not know what they were up to.



I wouldn't. They're just a run-of-the-mill car dealer.

If they paid trade money for a 4S rather an a 4 they'll be kicking themselves. They're certainly asking 4S retail.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
Robertb wrote:


I would be astonished if the trader did not know what they were up to.



I wouldn't. They're just a run-of-the-mill car dealer.

If they paid trade money for a 4S rather an a 4 they'll be kicking themselves. They're certainly asking 4S retail.


I agree with this. Unless they are a specialist dealer, they can often make this type of mistake. The proprietor probably has his head in his hands right now!!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don’t feel bad. Most car dealers would sell their granny. Very Happy

I’m loving the flaky red callipers with decals on the wrong way round.

The dealer will surely have done an HPI check and gone off his little values book.
I’d be amazed (although extremely amused) if he’s bought it thinking it’s a C4S. Grin
If he has then it’s good of him to ring Porsche UK and give them a laugh as well.


Martin, great reply about the driveshafts. Grin
 
  
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