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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:16 am    Post subject: New boots - which Michelin tyre? Reply with quote

So I want some new boots for the 997. I’d like to stick with one of Michelin’s various offerings but the question is which? I currently have Pilot Sport 2s, which I think are fantastic. But there’s also Pilot Super Sports (are they N rated yet?) and Pilot Sport 4 S. Andy probably more besides. Ideas?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS4S. That's all thumbsup
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep best tyres all round. PS4S are epic.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: New boots - which Michelin tyre? Reply with quote

MattyR wrote:
So I want some new boots for the 997. I’d like to stick with one of Michelin’s various offerings but the question is which? I currently have Pilot Sport 2s, which I think are fantastic. But there’s also Pilot Super Sports (are they N rated yet?) and Pilot Sport 4 S. Andy probably more besides. Ideas?


See here for N rated Thumb

https://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/porscheservice/vehicleinformation/tyreapproval/
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have priced up and will be going with PS4S from Black Circles as they seem to be offering the best deal for my sizes.

My Bridgestone's have 5-6mm of tread left but I find these tend to start cracking after a year or so (also have these on my daily runner) therefore all new purchases will be Mich.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for the above, experienced the same issues. There is only 1 tyre to buy and that's the Michelin.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS4S for sure - the very best tyre available... Thumb

Just note that the only Michelins to be N-Rated are PS2's so, if you need a warranty, that's your only choice - which also rules out Super Sports... Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scholester wrote:
I have priced up and will be going with PS4S from Black Circles as they seem to be offering the best deal for my sizes.

My Bridgestone's have 5-6mm of tread left but I find these tend to start cracking after a year or so (also have these on my daily runner) therefore all new purchases will be Mich.


Try Camskill.co.uk normally cheaper than black circles
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve got PS4S and would recommend them. F1 Autocentres had some good prices at the time. I’ve got PSS and they are not hugely different, except the better rim protection.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John H wrote:
PS4S for sure - the very best tyre available... Thumb

Just note that the only Michelins to be N-Rated are PS2's so, if you need a warranty, that's your only choice - which also rules out Super Sports... Sad


Not sure about that, I have N Rated PSS on my Cayman at the rear.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just been looking into this myself as I ran PS2's on my 996 a few years ago and liked them. I've discovered that, as far as 997 sizes go, PS2's are still your only N rated Michelin choice (well, those and the Alpin winter jobbies) and Michelin don't seem to have any plans to change this. Shame as I would have liked PS4S all round but as I've got a warranty I'm scuppered. Pretty poor show really from Porsche in this respect I think.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The return of Marty Wild wrote:
John H wrote:
PS4S for sure - the very best tyre available... Thumb

Just note that the only Michelins to be N-Rated are PS2's so, if you need a warranty, that's your only choice - which also rules out Super Sports... Sad


Not sure about that, I have N Rated PSS on my Cayman at the rear.


They will likely be the ones for the front of the Carrera GT.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the 265s...

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m55b0s4009p114079/Michelin_Tyres_Car_Michelin_SuperSport_Pilot_Michelin_Super_Sport_-_265_35_R19_%2898Y%29_XL_%28N0%29_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_E_Wet_Grip%3A_A_NoiseClass%3A_2_Noise%3A_71dB
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gizmo750 wrote:
Shame as I would have liked PS4S all round but as I've got a warranty I'm scuppered. Pretty poor show really from Porsche in this respect I think.

In my 7 years with Porsche, I have never understood Porsche's eagerness to homologate Pirelli P-Zero rubber whilst largely ignoring modern Michelin tyres on many models/sizes. Sad

Defies any reasonable logic. nooo
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Scholester wrote:
I have priced up and will be going with PS4S from Black Circles as they seem to be offering the best deal for my sizes.

My Bridgestone's have 5-6mm of tread left but I find these tend to start cracking after a year or so (also have these on my daily runner) therefore all new purchases will be Mich.


Try Camskill.co.uk normally cheaper than black circles

Thanks for the recommendation Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John H wrote:
PS4S for sure - the very best tyre available... Thumb

Just note that the only Michelins to be N-Rated are PS2's so, if you need a warranty, that's your only choice - which also rules out Super Sports... Sad


Not quite. Cup 2's are also N rated. I have them on my 997 GTS and they are excellent. Clearly a more track focused tyre and apparently they don't like very cold weather and standing water but my experiences have been very good so far.


Edit - I would have PS4S out of choice outside of warranty. I have them on a couple of other cars and they are really superb.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks chaps for your comments. I think I’ll either stick with PS2s or try the PS4S. But then again, if it ain’t broke and all that..



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of interest, what pressures are you guys with PS4S running?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS4S: I go 1 or 2 psi higher than what the door sticker says for unladen weight. Depending on ambient temps.
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