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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quiet month since I last posted with just the usual front door lock issues and inserting fuel in the car! I've purchased a replacement front headlight washer unit to replace my leaking one and fitted a cubby hole to the rear centre console removing the blanking panel that was in it's place. Gives the kids somewhere to stick their phones!

I've done a bit of interior cleaning to the leather as it was fairly grubby. The front passenger seat always looked a bit dodgy to the base with two of the leather panels a darker shade than the others. It turns out that one of the previous 2 owners must have used a colouring kit on it to hide damage. I have managed to remove it but the leather is worn off and looking at the colour I think it's possibly blue dye from denims. I've managed to find a pair of identical seats on ebay in much better condition than mine and for a good price so they're being delivered tomorrow and I'll try to get them fitted at the weekend. I've also replaced the gearbox surround trim as again, one of the previous owners tried to get creative and had sprayed the one in the car Lapis Blue to match the exterior. A great idea in principle but looked crap in reality! The one I picked up from Douglas Valley is a bit scratched so I might try and spray the blue one in silver and re-fit. The lighter colour one shown in the pics looks fine for now. I've attached a couple of before and afters for the head unit install. It looks a bit bare when switched off but I like the fact the plethora of buttons have now gone with removing the PCM 2.1. The new head unit can be tilted to different angles too which I thought was quite gimmicky but has actually proved really useful in the low winter sun.
 



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With new unit added
 



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And a pic of the car cleaned and on the winter alloys and tyres. Can't wait to get them off and the normal alloys back on but February and March are prime times for bad snow in Scotland. I inherited these from the previous owner - 18s which I think must be off a Q7 as the centre caps have Audi badges on them but have been sprayed out black!

Car paintwork actually comes up really well after washing but will be getting a bit of work done with a DA polisher come April and the (hopefully) better weather.
 



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres not much i can say as you dont have a fault but i will say .. thanks ..

I like looking at pictures of Cayennes .

ref seats .. you have the option of connolising .. they paint the leather basically .. from what ive seen over the years .. its pretty good
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're welcome! I do have faults, it's just that I am ignoring them for now (still haven't got round to looking properly at the lights for example that you have advice on previously)!

The replacement seats arrived yesterday and they are in fantastic condition so I'll be sticking them in for now. I'm not familiar with connolising but perhaps I could experiment with my original seats once they are removed.

One thing I could do with advice on is removing and installing the front seats. I've done it a few times before with other cars and with electric ones with airbags and I correct in assuming I leave the battery connected so I can slide the chair back and forth to undo all the bolts then disconnect it before removing the electrical connections so I don't get an airbag fault light appearing afterwards? Are there any other quirks to removing Cayenne seats that I need to be aware of, ie needing coded to the car for example? Thanks
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Front seat removal ..

Remove the carpet at the front .

Raise the seat as high as you can .

Pull off the plastic trims on the floor .. they pull upwards .

Hand under the seat .. the panel in front of the seat needs to be raised .. very little room .. but you raise it and pull back at the same time .. its cliped at the top basically and needs raiseing to release it .

Then slide the seat fully forwards .. go into the rear ..

Plastic covers over the seat rails .. these basically slide backwards to release .. im not going to argue here .. they can be a bitch to remove and refit and its not something i can explain here .. just have a good look at the fixing half way along .. you have to bend the cover to get it back on .

Ok so all covers removed so its back to the front .. x2 spline bolts hold the seat in position .. undo these and the seat will lift ..

Adjust the seat to go far forwards and up , seat back forwards and you will have access to the battery .. the seat tilts in other words after the front bolts have been removed .

To remove fully ..

Dont know

lol .. im sure you will see after that Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers. That sounds like a complete ballache compared to a 'normal' car! Why do Porsche have to over-complicate everthing they manufacture?!

Couple of questions but I appreciate these may become apparent when I am actually in there getting my hands dirty:

1) Why do you need to get your hand under the seat and pull it/raise it then slide it? Don't you just use the electric motors to move it?

2) So battery does need disconnecting before unplugging the electrics? Do you have to leave the key in the ignition to prevent the alarm activating when doing any of this? I read a post on someone with a 996 having to leave it at position 1 to prevent this happening.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1/ its the panel in front of the seat that needs lifting not the actual seat .. youll see what i mean when you look at it ..

Put the seat as high as poss and as far back as poss .. you get your fingers on the top of this panel and lift up and also hitting the panel with your other hand helps it pop up .. you can then pull it out .

You might have access with the seat fully forwards .. i do it from the front though .

2/ Battery doesnt need to be disconnected to get the seat back .. the actual battery is under the seat so you cant actually do it anyway but there is an earth strap in front of the passenger seat .. you can disconnect it from there .

If you have a reason to disconnect it .. which would only be for things like replacing a starter or alternator then you dont need the key in the ignition .. you just need the car to be unlocked .
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, got it re the panel!

So back to the battery (apologies if I'm being thick) and I definitely can leave it connected when I fully remove the seats? I'm concerned about:

1) The airbag warning light coming up on the dash if I disconnect it whilst 'live'
2) The airbag in the seat activating when I am fannying around in there because it is still connected to the battery!

It's just from precautions taken on other cars I've owned but maybe this isn't applicable to Cayennes?

And subsequently found this: https://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Porsche-Cayenne/43-BODY-Front_Seat_Removal/43-BODY-Front_Seat_Removal.htm
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I missed this first time around. Welcome C74. Thumb

To coin a used car dealers phrase these are a phenomenal amount of car for the money.
I’d be using 2 gallons a day just to get to work and back though. So over £50 per week before my weekend duties. Surprised

I’m glad it’s being relatively good to you though. Thumb

I’d love an ‘09 GTS in the dark red colour they do mind. Cool
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On any porsche car then if you dont have the key in the ignition when disconnecting or reconnecting an airbag system then it wont trigger a fault code and shut it down untill the code is cleared with a tester .

If unsure you can undo the earth lead in front of the seat .

you can remove the seat but i would disconnect the battery first unless you have a tester that can clear codes if needed .

to just tilt the seat to gain battery access and you dont need to disconnect the battery ... removeing and its best to .

re panel .. you will see when you look Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might just stick it into the garage to get this done - sounds like a PITA.

On another note I do have a slight fault - a vibration through the steering wheel when braking from 70 down to about 50, coming from the left side front wheel to the best of my guessing. Not as bad below 50mph and unnoticeable driving around town circa 30mph. Going to get the front wheel balancing checked at the weekend in case it's that but the garage did say that when I changed the pads next on the front the car will require discs too. The discs have a very deep lip on them. When you are driving around 70 there is a very slight vibration through the steering wheel but nothing too bad.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, another month rolls by and I've done nowt really! Not installed the seats, not tried to fix the lights, just put petrol in it. Lots and lots of petrol! I did one small upgrade - fitted a small cubbyhole thingy the rear which I bought from Status Porsche. Very easy to fit and much more practical and visually attractive than the grey blanking panel that was fitted. I'm off next week so will probably try and replace the seats myself and also might pop the original 19" alloys back on and take the winter set off. It'll be good to see it on the nicer alloys instead of those horrible Audi ones. I need to find a replacement fascia for the rear ashtray section but its proving elusive to find a grey one. Might have to try the dealer.
 



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, another month and still not attended to any issues! Been busy with other stuff. I did however buy a second hand set of pedals from an S to upgrade my cheap looking plain rubber ones. 2 minute fit and worth the effort I feel - lifts the cabin a touch!

Car is going into the garage next week for a pre-MOT check and for the summer alloys and tyres to be put back on. We will see if the brake discs and pads need doing prior to the MOT as they were highlighted by the garage at the last service 3k miles ago but if they do I have already purchased all the parts for it over the last few months. I'm not sure if the warnings I have for the cornering lights not working will be an MOT fail in these stricter times? Oh well, we'll find out soon I guess.....
 



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corner lights should not fail an mot ... its usually just a bulb though .. one side failing will stop the other side from working .

Brakes .. wait till you have a warning light on .. when we service these cars we look at 2 years so will flag brakes if we don't think they will last that long ..

nothing wrong with waiting till the warning light comes on then changing if its a year or so after a service ... warning light and you have approx 3k miles till its down to metal with the average user.

Brakes are also very subjective to how you drive the car so a mechanic can only ever guess at time remaining .
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's good to know about the lights although I do need to get it into the garage to diagnose the fault as the beeping it does when you turn the lights on is doing my head in. I can't believe I have left it so long to be honest but because it is not in my category of 'dangerous faults' I've tried to ignore it!

I don't have a warning light on for the brake pads yet but I do have an issue where I think a disc is warped so the garage is going to look at that too on Tuesday. I am getting severe judder through the steering wheel when braking from 70mph down to about 50mph then it isn't so pronounced. It also feels like a very strange sensation when you brake at lower speeds, particularly when you are just about to stop - very hard to explain without experiencing it. I don't get wheel wobble or vibration when driving so don't think it's a wheel balance issue.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, wheel vibration at speed is due to a shot balljoint on the front N/S lower suspension arm. Utterly shagged in the garages words! Strange as usually with wishbones/arms failing you get noises/squeaks/crashing through the suspension - none of which I have.

All discs and pads are shot too. Rear pads separating from the backing, etc. Still no warning lights on............

Apart from that all was fine!!!
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohh I noticed a small vibration, may well be the wheel balancing but I do get a knock over some bumps so I was just going to swap the wishbones for new ones. Looks an easy job, just annoying that it will require an alignment after but will give some peace of mind knowing that all of the bushes are new. I may do the drop links too as they're pretty cheap.

The only issue is that I get carried away and will want to change the rears too

frustrated

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going to change both of my fronts as he said the other side is worn too and will need changing soon. Going to get maximum efficiency from the wheel alignment and save doing it twice!

I purchased TRW arms from www.carparts4less as I wanted decent ones. Looking on the Design911 website this seems to be what they fit and the owner of the garage I use said his Boxster OEM suspension was all TRW so it must be decent equipment (I've owned lots of Alfas and always used TRW on those). Got the pair including next day delivery for £246. Best the garage could do for TRW was £350. I'll let them fit them as I don't have the tools, time or inclination. If you are buying any bits soon use carparts4less just now and they have 18% off if you use code EGG80. It's an Easter weekend code but still worked today!

Arms getting done tomorrow then back in the garage next week to get all the discs and pads done. I guess at least it doesn't need anything else for it's MOT Rolling Eyes
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill just point out .. if you have air suspension then knocking is often from that .

A worn ball joint is pretty rare on these cars .. i would guess speed bumps have hastened its demise .

At the end of the day these cars are not getting any younger but i still consider the suspension to be one of the better designs .. Porsche sports cars and noises are pretty common even at low milage ..

Sigh .. im showing i prefer these cars again aint i lol .

BTW .. the struts don't like impact damage .. they bend at the base .. you'll only see it on a geo check though .
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